Min - Planning and Zoning Commission - 2000 - 10/12 - RegularALLEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
EOCTOBER 12, 2000
ATTENDANCE:
Commission Members Present:
Ross Obermeyer, Chairman
Jeff McGregor, Vice Chairman
Alan Grimes
Gary Caplinger
Lauri Blake
Karolyn Nelson
Commission Members Absent:
Kenneth Harvey
City Staff Present:
Marina Sukup, Director of Planning
Tom Keener, Development Coordinator
Sally Leeper, Project Coordinator
Pam Conway, Administrative Secretary
Laleh Sultan, Planner
Dennis Abraham, Civil Engineer
Peter Tian, Traffic Engineer
CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCE A QUORUM:
With a quorum of the Commission Members present, the Allen Planning & Zoning Commission was
called to order at 7 10 p.m. by Chairman Obermeyer, at the City Council Chambers, Allen City Hall,
One Allen Civic Plaza, Allen, Texas.
WORKSHOP
✓ Call to Order and Announce a Quorum is Present
✓ Chairman Obermeyer welcomed the new members, Kenneth Harvey (who wasn't present)
and Karolyn Nelson.
✓ Update on Council Action - Ms. Marina Sukup, Director of Planning & Development, stated
that the City Council approved the Thoroughfare Plan at their last meeting.
✓ Discussion of Consent Agenda and Regular Agenda Items - Item 4, Twin Creeks West -
Commissioner McGregor reviewed the discussion of sidewalks on both sides of street from
the September 28" P&Z meeting. Chairman Obermeyer stated that a cleaner look is
obtained if both sides of the street are the same.
Ms. Sukup reviewed the schedule of upcoming items:
October 26, 2000, a public hearing will he held at P&Z on the Sign Ordinance.
November 9ih - Public Hearing on the Central Business District Plan.
November 30th - Joint Meeting with City Council (CBD)
At the November 21, 2000 meeting, staff will bring forward a recommendation for initial zoning
on property to be considered for annexation.
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Staff anticipates that a Committee meeting for CBD will be scheduled for late in November.
REGULAR AGENDA
Consent Agenda
1. Approve Minutes of September 28, 2000, Regular Meeting.
Motion: Upon a motion by Commission Member Grimes, and a second by
Commission Member McGregor, the Commission voted 6 I FAVOR
and 0 OPPOSED to approve the consent agenda. The Motion Carried.
Regular Agenda
Election of Officers
Commissioner McGregor moved to re-elect Ross Obermeyer as Chairman.
Seconded by Commissioner Grimes
6 FOR 0 OPPOSED to re-elect Ross Obermeyer as Chairman.
Commissioner Caplinger moved to re-elect Jeff McGregor as Vice Chairman.
Seconded by Commissioner Blake.
6 FOR 0 OPPOSED to re-elect Jeff McGregor as Vice Chairman
Commissioner Grimes moved to elect Commissioner Blake as 2nd Vice Chairman
Chairman Obermeyer stated that no second was needed.
With no other nominations, Laurie Blake was elected 2"" Vice Chairman by acclamation.
Public a :
Public Hearing/Tabled Item - Consider a request for Watters Creek Park for a Public
Hearing to consider a zoning change from Agriculture Open Space (A -O) to Corridor
Commercial (CC) on 4.23 ± acres of land situated in the John Phillips Survey, Abstract
No. 718, John W Roberts Survey, Abstract No. 762.
Motion: Upon a motion by Commission Member McGregor, and a second by
Commission Member Grimes, the Commission voted 6 I FAVOR and
0 OPPOSED to removed the item from the table. The motion carried.
Mr. Tom Keener, Development Coordinator, reviewed the background on the item. He
presented the revised land use plan showing the property as CC -Corridor Commercial. He
stated that staff recommends approval. It was noted that City Council would consider the
request on October 19, 2000.
Chairman Obermeyer Opened the Public Hearing.
Mr. David Craig, owner of adjacent property to the west He stated that he would like to voice
Chis support for this request.
■ Mr. Bob Johnson, Johnson & Payne Investments, stated that he requests approval of the request
r and thanked the Commission for their work.
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With no one else wishing to speak, the Public Hearing was closed
Motion: Upon a motion by Commission Member McGregor, and a second by
Commission Member Blake, the Commission voted 6 I FAVOR and 0
OPPOSED to approve the request. The motion carried.
4. Public Hearing/Tabled Item —Consider a request for Twin Creeks West to establish
Planned Development District No. 88 and to amend a portion of Tract 32C of Planned
Development No. 54. The property is 169.03 t acres of land, located in the Jesse Gough
Survey, Abstract 347 and the Alfred Slack Survey, Abstract 854, City of Allen, Collin
County, Texas; further described as being located east of Custer Road and north of
McDermott Drive.
Motion: Upon a motion by Commission Member McGregor, and a second by
Commission Member Blake, the Commission voted 6 I FAVOR and 0
OPPOSED to remove the items from the table. The motion carried.
Mr. Keener summarized the Commission's recommendations from the last meeting.
Commissioner Grimes suggested that on Tract 2, the statement about front loading garages
should say "shall not be less than 18 feet." He also suggested that Hole No. 5 at the Twin Creeks
Golf Course should be stated more specifically.
Discussion was held regarding the 6 -foot fence on golf course lots (Tract 1) Commissioner
Blake stated that she did not want to bind them to something that's not required.
Chairman Obermeyer Opened the Public Hearing.
With no one wishing to speak, the Public Hearing was closed.
Mr. Brad Meyer, Carter & Burgess, on behalf of Briar Ridge Investments, handed out a list of
issues for clarification (attached).
Items I and 3: Would an opaque fence serve as the buffer between lots located perpendicular to
one another? Chairman Obermeyer stated that the Commission recommended that multiple lots
perpendicular to a single lot would not be allowed, but an opaque fence between two lots located
perpendicular to one another could meet the requirements.
Ms. Sukup stated that the discussion of individual lots would be appropriate during review of the
plat. The adequacy of a buffer strip between the lots could depend on the topography or other
factors that would require careful review.
Items 2 and 7 were no longer an issue, since the maximum block length allowed in the Allen
Land Development Code was 1,600 feet except in Residential Estate areas where no limit is
established.
Item 4: The Allen Land Development Code requires that lots siding on a collector have a
minimum side yard width of twenty five feet and developer requested a minimum setback of 15
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feet. Chairman Obermeyer stated that he believed that this should be addressed at the time the
property is platted.
Item 5: Applicant requested that lot depth be reduced by a maximum of 10 feet on cul-de-sacs,
street elbows, or curved streets. Chairman Obermeyer stated that he would not like to give a
blanket approval but indicated that staff would be willing to work with the proponent on this
during the plat stage.
Item 6: Applicant requested that the ten -foot spacing between driveways be measured from the
edge of the driveway, rather than from the curb return as required by the subdivision regulations.
Ms Sukup observed that with the approval of mountable curbs there would be no curb returns.
This would not resolve issues associated with flared driveway sections. Commissioner Grimes
observed that integral five-foot sidewalks would eliminate any need to flare the driveway
In discussing the fencing requirements in Tract 2, Mr. Meyer suggested that 2 -foot retaining wall
and 4 foot wrought iron fence would not meet the 75% transparency requirements and requested
that only the top 4 -feet should be 75% transparent.
Motion: Following discussion, a motion was made by Commission Member
McGregor, and a second by Commission Member Grimes, the
Commission voted 6 IN FAVOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the item
with the following revisions to the draft ordinance:
• In Tract 2, front -loading garages shall be located nor less than
eighteen feet (18'-0") from the front property line.
• Fencing of lots backing the golf course shall be of uniform
height and constructed of wrought iron or painted aluminum,
with the uppermost four -feel (4'0") of the fence to be 75%
transparent.
• Floodplain area and park shall be dedicated to the City in
conjunction with the platting of any property located to the
immediate west of Hole No. 5 of the Twin Creeks Golf Course,
a identified on the Concept Plan.
The motion carried.
Other Business
Review Upcoming Agenda Items —discussed in the workshop.
Committee Reports — N/A
Adioum
Motion: Upon a motion by Commission Member Blake, and a second by
Commission Member Caplinger, the Commission voted 6 I FAVOR
and 0 OPPOSED to Adjourn the October 12, 2000 meeting at 8:45
p.m. The motion carried.
T ese minutes approved this day of &,-tnhP)r' 2000.
oss Oberme ec Chairman Pam Conway