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Min - Board of Adjustment - 1990 - 04/10 - RegularD ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD REGULAR MEETING APRIL 10, 1990 ATTENDANCE: Board Members Present: George Chrisman, Chairman Gary Crowe (arrived 7:40 p.m.) Terri Hall Randall Leverett Bruce Kleinschmidt Board Members Absent: City Staff Present: Joseph Del Ferro, Environmental Health Inspector Sally Leeper, Secretary CALL TO ORDER: The Allen Sign Control Board was called to order at 7:36 p.m. by Chairman Chrisman at the Allen Municipal Annex, City Council Chambers, One Butler Circle, Allen, Texas. Approve Minutes March 13, 1990 (Agenda Item II) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Approve minutes of March 13, 1990, Regular meeting." MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the March 13, 1990, minutes as presented. SIGN CONTROL BOARD APRIL 10, 1990 PAGE 2 Public Hearing Diamond Shamrock - Barnett Signs (Agenda Item III) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Public Hearing - Consider a request from Barnett Signs, Inc. for a variance to the City of Allen Sign Regulations Ordinance for property known as the Diamond Shamrock, located at 101 S. Greenville, to allow an additional Class 5 sign at the allowed square footage to be located facing S.H. 5." Mr. Calvin Chance, 1702 Peavy Road, Dallas, Texas, of Barnett Signs„ representing Diamond Shamrock, presented the request for an additional Class 5 sign on the property. Chairman Chrisman opened the public hearing. With no one wishing to speak for or against the request, Chairman Chrisman closed the public hearing. Mr. Chance stated that the requested sign would be exactly the same as the existing sign facing F.M. 2170 and would be illuminated. Chairman Chrisman questioned the proponent regarding the statement in their letter of request which indicated that one pole would be placed in the drive area if a single sign is utilized at the corner of the property. Mr. Chance stated that if a double pole sign is utilized at the corner, then one of the poles would be placed in the drive area. Mr. Chance stated that if the sign is placed perpendicular to the intersection rather than crosswise, it would then fit, but visibility would not be achieved. The Board discussed this issue and a comparison was drawn to the sign layout at the 7111 Store across the street. Mr. Del Ferro explained to the Board that there is a requirement that the sign must be placed a certain distance from existing utility poles. With these setback requirements, from the property line and from the utility poles, one of the poles will necessarily be placed in the drive area if the sign is placed crosswise to the intersection. Board Member Leverett stated he feels that the layout lends itself to sufficient identification. The Board discussed the question of whether signage was considered at the time the site was designed. MOTION: A motion was made by Board Member Leverett and seconded by Board Member Hall to approve the variance as requested. I SIGN CONTROL BOARD APRIL 10, 1990 PAGE 3 Public Hearing Diamond Shamrock - Barnett Signs (Cont.) (Agenda Item III) Discussion: Board Member Crowe expressed concern that the advertising should have been considered at the time of site design. Board Member Leverett stated he felt the request warrants consideration for a variance and that the layout appears to have been designed for this configuration of signs. Chairman Chrisman expressed concern about the fact that the existing sign was placed before a variance request was made. He stated he did not believe the store would suffer by having only one sign, and discussed the fact that a similar request by the 7111 Store was denied. The Commission voted 2 FOR and 3 OPPOSED and the request was denied. Public Hearing Harley D. Roche (Agenda Item IV) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Public Hearing - Consider a request from Mr. Harley D. Roche for a variance to the City of Allen Sign Regulations Ordinance for property located on U.S. 75 south of Stacy Road to allow a variance to the 50 -foot distance requirement for location from the right-of-way to 25 feet." Mr. Harley D. Roche of Van Alstyne presented the request to the Board. He stated he had at first misinterpreted the City's requirement for placing a sign 50 feet from the intersection of streets; he did not understand that the U. S. Highway would be considered a street. Mr. Roche stated he needs a 25 -foot variance to comply with the ordinance. Chairman Chrisman opened the public hearing. With no one wishing to speak either for or against the request, Chairman Chrisman closed the public hearing. Mr. Del Ferro stated that the City's Sign Ordinance requires a 50 -foot setback from the property line for billboards. Chairman Chrisman asked if the sign could be brought further south in order to comply. Mr. Del Ferro explained the sign is requested to be located 2000 feet from the nearest sign to the south. He explained that Mr. Roche has all approvals necessary except for the City's permit. If the sign is moved further to the east, it will be in the required right-of-way of the railroad. SIGN CONTROL BOARD APRIL 10, 1990 PAGE 4 Public Hearing Harley D. Roche (Cont.) (Agenda Item IV) Chairman Chrisman asked if the planned widening of U.S. 75 is going to interfere with the sign at the requested location. Mr. Del Ferro stated that the State has given permission for the sign, but he does not know if this approval took into account the widening of the highway. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Crowe, the Board voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSE to approve the request by Mr. Roche for a 25 -foot variance to the setback require- ment for Class 6 sign. Consider Renewal F.M. 2170 Ltd. Partnership (The Woods) (Agenda Item V) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider 2nd renewal for Class 4 off-site sign for F.M. 2170 Ltd. Partnership (The Woods) located at the northwest corner of U.S. 75 and McDermott Drive." Board Member Leverett stated he has viewed the sign and it is in good repair. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal of the off-site sign for F.M. 2170 Ltd. Partner- ship. Consider Renewal F.M. 2170 Ltd. Partnership (The Woods) (Agenda Item VI) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider 3rd renewal for Class 4 on-site sign for F.M. 2170 Ltd. Partnership (The Woods) located south of F.M. 2170 and 6500 feet west of U.S. 75." Chairman Chrisman advised that the sign is in good condition. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Crowe and a second by Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal of the on-site sign for F.M. 2170 Ltd. Partnership. I SIGN CONTROL BOARD APRIL 10, 1990 PAGE 5 Consider Renewal Ike Harris & Co. (Heritage Park (Agenda Item VII) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider 2nd renewal for Class 4 on-site for Ike Harris & Co. for the Heritage Park development located at the northeast corner of Bethany and Livingston." Board Member Leverett stated he viewed the sign and it was in good condition. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Crowe, the Board voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal of the Class 4 on-site sign for Ike Harris & Co. Consider Renewal Fox & Jacobs (Heritage Park) (Agenda Item VIII) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider 2nd renewal for Class 4 on-site sign for Fox & Jacobs in the Heritage Park development located at 775 Livingston." MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Crowe, the Board voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal for Fox & Jacobs at 775 Livingston. Consider Renewal Bass Development (Agenda Item IX) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider 2nd renewal for Class 4 on-site sign for Bass Development in the Fountain Park development located at Sycamore Creek and Fountain Gate Drive." The Board discussed the appearance of the sign and that possibly some attention should be paid to the condition of the paint. MOTION: A motion was made by Board Member Hall and seconded by Board Member Kleinschmidt to approve the request as submitted. Discussion Board Member Leverett asked whether the request could be approved with conditions and Chairman Chrisman stated that yes it could, but he felt that should be done with caution, understanding the reasons for such action. Board Member Leverett stated he considered the sign to look undesirable from the highway. Chairman Chrisman stated he felt that appropriate action would be either to approve, deny, or table the request, rather than to approve with contingencies. SIGN CONTROL BOARD APRIL 10, 1990 PAGE 6 Consider Renewal Bass Development (Cont.) (Agenda Item IX) Board Member Kleinschmidt withdrew the second and Board Member Hall withdrew the motion. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Crowe, the Board voted 4 FOR and 1 OPPOSED to table the request until the area that has been whited out is cleaned up. Consider Renewal Wood Sign Company (Agenda Item X) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider 2nd renewal for Class 4 on-site sign for Wood Sign Company located at Shelby Drive and U.S. 75." MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Crowe and a second by Board Member Hall, the Board voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal for Wood Sign Company located at Shelby Drive and U.S. 75. Consider Renewal Wood Sign Company (Agenda Item XI) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider 2nd renewal for Class 4 on-site sign for Wood Sign Company located at Shelby Drive and S.H. 121. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Crowe and a second by Board Member Hall, the Board voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal for Wood Sign Company located at Shelby Drive and S.H. 121. Items of Interest to the Board: (Agenda Item XII) Mr. Del Ferro advised that three permits have been issued for Class 4 signs during March, 1990. Board Member discussed the residential curb painters that are working in Allen at this time and the inference on their flyer that they represent the City. Ms. Leeper explained that the staff was aware of this situation and had taken steps to correct it. L SIGN CONTROL BOARD d APRIL 10, 1990 PAGE 7 Adjourn: MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to adjourn the April 100, 1990, meeting at 8:45 p.m. These minutes approved this 8 day of 1990. George Chri ian, Chairman Terri Hall, Secretary I F