HomeMy WebLinkAboutMin - City Council - 1987 - 11/18 - JointALLEN CITY COUNCIL
PLANO CITY COUNCIL
CALLED - SPECIAL JOINT MEETING
NOVEMBER 18, 1987
Present:
Allen City Council:
Donald P. Rodenbaugh, Mayor
Jerry Wilson
Bobby Glass
Jim Wolfe
Jim Pendleton
Absent:
Joe Farmer, Mayor Pro Tem
Jack Pennington
City Staff•
Jon McCarty, City Manager
Marty Hendrix, City Secretary
Bill Petty, Director of Community Development
Ernie Hoback, Director of Public Works
Mark Thornton, Director of Parks and Recreation
Plano City Council:
Jack Harvard, Mayor
Ron Harris, Mayor Pro Tem
Florence Shapiro
Steve Worth
Mike Meyers
Charles Pullman
City Staff•
Jerry McGuire, Assistant City Manager
James MCCarley, Assistant City Manager
Jackie Blakely, City Secretary
Alan Upchurch, City Engineer
Don Wendell. Director of Parks & Recreation
Guest:
Clarence Daugherty, Director of Public Works, Collin County
The Allen City Council and the Plano City Council convened
in the called - special joint dinner meeting at 6:30 p.m. on
Wednesday, November 18, 1987, in the Red Oak Room of the Harvey
Hotel, 1600 N. Central Expressway, Plano, Texas.
At 7:30 p.m., Mayor Harvard called the special joint meeting
to order and provided opening remarks on the fact that this was
the third joint meeting held by the two cities and how beneficial
these meetings had been in the past. Mayor Harvard advised of
some of the previous topics that had been discussed and reviewed
the agenda for this meeting.
At Mayor Harvard's request, everyone present introduced
themselves.
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Mayor Harvard then turned the meeting over to the City of
Allen. City Manager Jon McCarty advised that Bill Petty,
Director of Community Development, would make a presentation on
the first item on the agenda.
Northeast Plano/Southeast Allen
Study Area - Existing Boundary
Agreement (Agenda Item II -A)
Bill Petty, Director of Community Development, spoke before
the Councils on the 1984 boundary agreement between the City of
Allen and the City of Plano and pointed out areas that had been
disannexed from the City of Allen and annexed into the City of
Plano. He also pointed out areas that are presently in the City
of Plano that will be disannexed and probably annexed into the
City of Allen at some future time.
Northeast Plano/Southeast Allen
Study Area - Future Boundary
Considerations (Agenda Item II -B)
Mr. Petty then explained the proposed alignment of Allen
Heights Road in Allen, the large volume of traffic that now uses
that roadway, and plans for future extension of Allen Heights
into the Plano area, through Parker and an area in Collin County.
There was considerable discussion by the Plano City Council
on the roadway extension and how the City of Plano would not be
in a position to determine how the roadway is aligned from
Allen's boundary as no part of it would be in the City of Plano
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discussion on the size of the roadway, the fact that it was in
the county's thoroughfare plan and Allen's as a major thorough-
fare, but not in Plano's, and if the North Central Council of
Governments had done a traffic model on this roadway. There was
considerable discussion on the alignment of Allen Heights as it
passes over Parker Road.
Alan Upchurch, City Engineer for the City of Plano, spoke
before the Councils in the proposed alignments of Allen Heights
Road and how the proposed alignment had been determined.
There was further discussion on the alignment of this roadway.
Common Thoroughfares - Chaparral,
Allen Heights, Custer Road, SH 121 (Agenda Item III -A)
Alan Upchurch spoke before the Councils on the alignment of
Custer Road and pointed out that alignment on a map. He also
reviewed the two areas that affected the City of Allen and that
Allen will assist the City of Plano with the acquisition of
right-of-way, but will not provide funding for this project. The
City of Plano and the county would be funding this construction.
There was discussion on the zoning along Custer Road in Allen and
the fact that Allen was not participating in the cost of
construction on the roadway due to the fact that the entire
roadway was in the City of Plano.
Mr. Upchurch pointed out the other roads in the City of
Plano that would be improved. Those roads were Springcreek
Parkway from U.S. 75 to Jupiter Road, Jupiter Road from Spring -
creek to Parker Road, U.S. 75 north from Springcreek to State
Highway 121, which would include an overpass at Legacy and
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Common Thoroughfares - Chaparral,
Allen Heights, Custer Road, SH 121
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(Agenda Item III -A)
improvement to bridges over creek area to eliminate the need for
turnarounds. He also pointed out improvements to be done to
State Highway 5 from Parker Road to Chaparral.
Common Thoroughfares - Ultimate
Boundaries (Agenda Item III - B)
Mr. Upchurch then reviewed the roadways that both cities
would be involved in due to the ultimate boundaries of the
cities. Those roadways were Custer Road, as previously pre-
sented, Chaparral Road, Hedgecoxe Road, and Alma Road. Mr.
Upchurch explained the existing conditions of those roadways and
explained which city would be responsible for the improvements to
portions of those roadways.
At this time, Mayor Harvard advised that he would like to
see the city staffs from both cities work together on the
development of these roadways so that cost factors could be
distributed evenly between the cities.
Linear Parks (Agenda Item IV)
Don Wendell, Director of Parks and Recreation for the City
of Plano, spoke before the Councils on the concept of linear
parks and their inclusion in Plano's Comprehensive Plan. He
provided the definition of linear parks and using a map, pointed
out those linear park areas along the major creeks in Plano that
are adjacent to Allen. Mr. Wendell explained about the par-
ticipation between Allen and Plano in linear park development
and pointed out the areas that will link up Allen to Plano.
Mark Thornton, Director of Parks & Recreation Department for
Allen, spoke before the Councils on the linear parks in Allen and
linkage with the linear parks in Plano. Mr. Thornton also
provided information on the City of Allen's Linear/Greenbelt Park
Study, how it was developed and funded, and how it provided for
implementation.
Utilities - Rowlett Creek and
Cottonwood Creek Sewer Lines (Agenda Item V -B)
Ernie Hoback, Director of Public Works for Allen, spoke
before the Councils on the two major sewer lines located in Allen
on Rowlett Creek and Cottonwood Creek, how they were constructed,
the capacities of the lines, and the pro rata agreements with the
developers for cost reimbursements.
Mr. Hoback then reviewed the use of the Cottonwood Creek
Sewer line and how much Allen uses the line now and how the City
of Plano may utilize the line in the future.
Utilities - Jupiter Road
Water System (Agenda Item V-A)
Alan Upchurch, City Engineer for Plano, spoke before the
Councils on the Jupiter Road water system which provides water to
residents along Jupiter Road, when the system was developed and
that the City of Allen has provided the service at this time and
that the City of Plano will be taking over and providing this
service in the future.
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Economic Development (Agenda Item VII
City Manager Jon McCarty, of Allen, spoke in regards to the
development process in Allen for a strategy for economic
development and advised of the status of the process to date.
(101 Mr. McCarty advised of the city's participation in the TEXCEL
program, which is a program sponsored by the state for economic
development, and the development of a memorandum of agreement for
participation by the city, school district and chamber of
commerce, and proposed funding that would be needed.
Councilwoman Florence Shapiro, of Plano, spoke in regards to
the strategy behind the economic development program in Plano,
the development of the Economic Development Board, and the use of
a consultant to help point out assets that the City of Plano can
promote to corporate executives. Mrs. Shapiro pointed out that
she felt that the city had to take the lead in this process for
it to be successful.
Councilman Mike Meyer of Plano advised of the strong
membership drive conducted this year for the Plano Chamber of
Commerce and the good results they had achieved. Mr. Meyer also
felt this was important to economic development strategy.
There was further discussion on the amount of funding Plano
provided for their economic development program and how they
promoted their community as a part of the metroplex area and
spoke in favor of other cities in this area.
At this time, Mayor Harvard asked if there was any further
discussion or comments. Councilman Mike Meyer of Plano requested
that the county representatives be sure and provide information
to cities on the county's thoroughfare plan, especially those
thoroughfares which pertain to joint city participation. There
was further discussion on this request and the fact that the
county had provided copies of the thoroughfare plans in the past
to cities for their review and input. There was further
discussion on the Allen Heights Road alignment and how Plano is
effected.
Adjournment
With no further discussion, the called - special joint
meeting of the Allen City Council and the Plano City Council was
adjourned at 9:15 p.m. on Wednesday, November 18, 1987.
These minutes approved on the 3rd day of December,
1987.
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