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PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
REGULAR CALLED MEETING
APRIL 12. 1993 - 7:30 P.M.
Tom Clark, Chairman
Jim Waldbauer, Secretary
Lonnie Thomas, Vice -Chairman
Denise Lebowitz
Frank Maitland
Ross Obermeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT
Ray Galloway
GUESTS PRESENT
Dr. Joe Farmer, Mayor
Sally Terrell, ASA Liaison
Don Seale, Resident
STAFF PRESENT
Rhoda Savage, Director of Parks and Recreation
Sue Witkowski, Secretary
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The meeting was called to order at 7:33 by Chairman Tom Clark.
II. ITEMS OF INFORMATION
a. Request to Appear by Mayor Joe Farmer
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Mayor Joe Farmer began by expressing his appreciation to the Board
for their allowing him to appear on the agenda but also for their
diligent service to the community through their commitment to the
Parks and Recreation Board.
The Mayor emphasized the changing community in Allen, and that the
time of testing the community would be faced in the near future. He
indicated there would be many opportunities for fragmentation and that
one way to combat that would be the firmer and more open
communication from all entities. He indicated a sense of unity would
be very importation and that the Park Board as the planners who put
rules and regulations in place, along with recommending policy would
continue to carry a very important role of responsibility.
He applauded the Board's recent efforts to learn more about their role
and them selves through Board Training Workshops.
The Mayor emphasized three things he felt were of prime importance to
the Board:
1) Use the tools you have (improve the tools if needed), and work
on the barriers if they exist - but do not discard the tool.
2) In order to see things clearer - obtain everyone's opinion and
view (other Board members, community members, staff, etc).
3) Make Board decisions based on what you feel best for the
community. (Don't let opinions of Council and other entities
sway you.)
The Mayor then opened up the floor for questions from the Board
members.
Lonnie Thomas asked for clarification on how input should be made
(through Staff or through Council). The Mayor responded that
communication with both entities was very important. That staff should
be communicated with on a regular basis, and that the Board's input to
the Council was a very valuable asset.
Denise Lebowitz inquired if there was a document in place that would
best give direction to the Board as to where they should be going? The
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Mayor responded by recommending the City of Allen Comprehensive
Plan as an excellent place to begin. He emphasized studying the plan
carefully, applying the policy, and recognizing that variances are a
necessary part of negotiation.
The Mayor referred the Board to a letter recorded in the minutes of
February 24, 1993, from the Board to Rhoda Savage. The mayor
applauded the communication and thought the letter reflected a great
deal of thought, hard work, and insight on the part of the Board. He
also referred to the minutes of February 9, 1993, at which meeting Jan
Wray appeared representing the Boy Scouts to ask for permission to use
Bethany Lakes Park for a day camp. The Mayor asked if that item was
still on the Agenda or what the disposition had been.
Staff indicated they were waiting for Mrs. Wray to get back with them
regarding the use of the facility. Director Rhoda Savage indicated that
she knew Mrs. Wray had been in touch with the Allen Police
Department regarding the use of archery and bb guns on site.
Meanwhile, the Board and Staff assured Mrs. Wray of every intent to
work with her toward holding the camp at Bethany Lakes Park.
Chairman Tom Clark thanked the Mayor for his taking the time to
speak to the board and welcomed him at any meetings he would like to
attend.
b. Citizen Comments
Mrs. Sally Terrell introduced herself as the Allen Sports Association
(ASA) Liaison Officer and indicated her willingness to represent the
ASA at all Park Board functions as well as reported briefly on a history
of individual coaches and members of the ASA coming to the Board
meetings expressing opinions and representing themselves as the ASA.
The hope is that the creation of Liaison Officer will help improve
communication between the Board and the ASA.
C. Rhoda Savage indicating that a couple of items had been inadvertently
left off the agenda, one of which was the introduction of the newly
appointed Board members.
Denise Lebowitz informed the Board that she was born and raised in
San Antonio, Texas, having spent recent years in Georgetown, Texas
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where she has served as the Secretary to the City Manager, Personnel
Administrator, as well as part-time City Secretary. Denise reported she
has a 4 year old son and is very interested in recreation and park
facilities for his future in Allen and that she and her family expect to be
here for a long time.
Frank Maitland indicated he had lived in Allen for 25 years, and has
three children, ages 13, 12 and 3. He has been involved in various
capacities with the ASA and wanted to be involved with the changes
that are going to be a part of Allen in the very near future. He
indicated that his years with ASA had instilled a desire to have some
input with the City boards and commissions.
d. Director Rhoda Savage indicated that the other item left off of the
agenda was the consideration of agenda topics for upcoming meetings.
Following a brief discussion it was determined that the items should be
looking toward the future of Allen, and the needs of the general public
as well as the ASA. Rhoda suggested that the next meeting be devoted
to concepts, visions of the future, brain storming, status of bonds from
the 1985 Bond Election, as well as the next capital improvement
program.
Rhoda reminded the Board that the deadline for agenda item submission
would be Monday, one week prior to the scheduled Park Board
meeting.
Ross Obermeyer suggested a future agenda item might be a grass
clipping recycling program for Allen.
e. Recycling Rebate Report
Rhoda indicated that she had spoken with Michael Stanger and he had
indicated his willingness to investigate the possibility of offering the
public the option of turning their recycling rebate back to the City to
fund parks programs. Michael was invited to tonight's meeting, but
was unable to attend due to prior commitments. He will be getting
back with the Director regarding this possibility. Lonnie Thomas
indicated that he felt the Board could make a recommendation to
Council regarding this suggested programming, and then allow staff to
;; develop the program. Following a brief discussion, it was decided that
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the recycling rebate item would be placed on future Parks and
Recreation Board Agendas until resolution reached.
Twin Creeks Schedule of Meetings
Rhoda provided the board with the following schedule of meetings
regarding the Twin Creeks Development in Allen:
DATE
TIME
PLACE
MEETING
April 15
7:30 pm
City Council
Public Hearing with Allen
Tuesday Night
July 13
Chambers
City Council
April 19
7:00 pm
City Council
Workshop with City
Chambers
Council
April 27
7:00 pm
City Council
Tentative (Workshop)
Chambers
May 6
7:30 pm
City Council
Vote on Case by City
Chambers
Council
Chairman Tom Clark requested staff provide the Board members with a
written summary of each of the above meetings. Rhoda agreed to do
that as well as send a copy of the agenda to Parks and Recreation
Board members. Ross Obermeyer suggested that as many Board
members as possible should make an effort to attend the above
workshops.
g. Rhoda provided the Board with a copy of the proposed Parks and
Recreation Board meeting dates which are as follows:
DATE
TIME
DAYS
May 10
7:30 pm
Monday Night
June 15
7:30 pm
Tuesday Night
July 13
7:30 pm
Tuesday Night
August 10
7:30 pm
Tuesday Night
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September 13
7:30 pm
Monday Night
October 11
7:30 pm
Monday Night
h. Distribute Packets for Architect Selection Committee
Rhoda provided Lonnie Thomas and Ross Obermeyer with copies of
the three architectural firms requested to submit proposals for the Allen
Recreation Center as well as the Primary Facility at Bethany Lakes
Park. She asked that the committee members be available on April 30,
during the day for the interviews with the firms. Lonnie requested a
meeting with staff prior to the interviews and Rhoda indicated that
would be a good idea.
H. ITEMS FOR BOARD ACTION
a. Approval of Minutes
Regular Called Meeting, February 9, 1993
Special Called Meeting, February 24, 1993
Following a brief discussion regarding memo from the Board to Rhoda
from the February 24, 1993, meeting, it was determined that the final
draft of that memo would be attached to this evenings's minutes rather
than replace the one from February 24.
MOTION: Ross Obermeyer moved to accept the minutes as
presented, and Frank Maitland seconded. The motion
carried 6 for, 0 against.
The final copy of that memo is as follows:
TO: RHODA SAVAGE, DIRECTOR OF PARKS &
RECREATION
FROM: CITY OF ALLEN PARKS AND RECREATION
BOARD
SUBJECT: TWIN CREEKS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
9 (INCLUDING THE GREEN AND WHISENANT
TRACT)
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DATE: FEBRUARY 24 1993
Our Board has had the distinct privilege of consulting with the Planning
and Zoning Commission concerning Parks and Recreation issues related
to this large and complex planned development. This has been a
challenge for us and we have certainly developed a deep respect for the
Planning and Zoning Commission and the task it encounters.
The Boards primary objectives in regard to this planned development
have been developed after careful consideration of the City Land
Acquisition Policy, Linear Greenbelt Park Study, Allen Comprehensive
Plan and Park Open Space and Land Dedication Ordinances. In
response to the proponents request, the Board objectives include:
• Assurance of the integrity of the Linear Park
system (including extensive public access to
Watters and Rowlett Creek)
• Protection of the Rowlett/Watters Creek corridor
• Assurance of readily accessible neighborhood
parks within the development (a combination of
public parks and private recreation areas)
• That planned actions are taken by the City of
Allen to assure a public community park of 50-75
acres to be developed in the northwest quadrant of
Allen
(The Community Park site is requested along the
west side of Rowlett Creek, North of Rowlett
Road.)
Though not always apparent, we have maintained an underlying
premise that these objectives can be achieved and mutually benefit the
developers and the current and future citizens of Allen. We feel the
developers latest plans, presented to the Commission on February 18,
'; are very close to satisfying all Board concerns. The developers should
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be complimented for their sincere efforts to develop a community that
is reflective of our city's strategic plans. We feel the following
recommendations will result in substantial if not complete satisfaction
of the Board objectives previously identified.
Concerning Linear Parks, the Board has recognized the reality and
necessity of a privately owned publicly accessible golf course to the
development. We feel the golf course and continuity of the Rowlett
Creek Linear Park system can co -exist. The developer has made
extensive adjustments to reach this end. The developer's latest
proposal provides public access to significant portions of Rowlett Creek
via a "hike and bike" trail. However, the golf course design includes
fairways on the interior of the East and West Branches of Rowlett
Creek. In these areas the current proposal depicts an 8' path that
would run parallel to the fairways and serve dual purposes of a golf
course path and a "hike and bike" trail. As the developer has
frequently pointed out, it is not desirable to have this situation of dual
usage due to safety concerns. The Parks and Recreation Board
recommends, in order of desirability, that dialogue be pursued with the
developer to:
1) Design a golf course layout that does not have fairways
in the interior "v" formed by the East and West Branches
of Rowlett Creek; or
2) Have separate and distinct pathways for golf carts and
"hike/bike" purposes consistent with the Linear Park
Study "buffer" recommendation.
Regarding neighborhood parks, the planned development utilization
of public parks and private recreation areas posed a unique challenge to
the Board. The City's Park Dedication Ordinance is silent concerning
"private" neighborhood parks. The Comprehensive Plan does
recognize the potential for the occurrence. The Allen Parks and
Recreation Board recognizes that the developments proposed private
recreation areas do in part offset the need for public neighborhood
parks. Also, private parks are developed and maintained at no cost to
the City. The proper mixture of public parks and private recreational
areas can be achieved. As proposed February 18th, the following
�1 mixture is summarized:
Ei`9Y� Public Park Land:
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7.6 Acres (Adjacent to 33.3 acres of greenbelt) north
of Fast Branch of Rowlett Creek
10.0 Acres (Whisenant Tract)
5.0 Acres (Green and Twin Creek Tracts)
4.5, 2.5, and 4.8 Acres These park dedications are
along Watters Creek. They
are connected by 31.8
acres of floodplain not
including an 11.5 acre
elementary school site and
floodplain previously
dedicated in Raintree
Estates.
34.4 Acres of public park land that may satisfy
neighborhood park requirements
Private Recreation Areas - no public access:
28.3 Acres East side of golf course along FM2170
11.1 Acres West side of golf course along FM2170
10.0 Acres Recreation Area (site not specified)
Private passive recreation areas with public access:
The developer proposes via "alternative transportation
routes" public access to significant portions of the
interior "v" formed by the East and West Branches of
Rowlett Creek.
The Board recommends the following regarding Public Neighborhood
Parks/Private recreation areas:
Assurance of the 10 acres Private recreation area
(site not specified) proposed February 18th
2. Public access be assured and accommodated
adjacent to the public dedicated parks, i.e., on or
off street parking.) These areas are beautiful and
utilization by all citizens is desirable.
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The Board recognizes the development's private recreation areas may
offset demands for neighborhood parks. However, the offset to
Community Park needs will be minimal.
There is an ever increasing need for additional Public Community
Parks in Allen. The Comprehensive Plan recognizes the need for
community recreation facilities (i.e., Community Park) within the area
of this development. In addition, the existing zoning for this area
anticipated this need by designating approximately 200 acres for
"Community Facility", whether it would be public golf course, public
open space or similar. In contrast, the developer's proposal eliminates
this needed community park from this entire area of development. In
the Planning and Zoning Commission's review of park relayed issues,
please be reminded that although other similar private developments in
other cities have worked, the Twin Creeks Development is
encompassing approximately 25% of the entire land mass of the City of
Allen. We feel this is a very important item of consideration
(especially in relation to a Community Park) as there may not be
another development large enough to include a future Community Park
in the remainder of the northwest quadrant of Allen. Therefore, you
can easily see why a Community Park within the area of this
development is crucial to the future planning and future citizens of
Allen. As reflected in one of the proponents presentations to the Parks
and Recreation Board, an ideal site for athletic fields would be a parcel
of land along Rowlett Road, West of Rowlett Creek, located in the
developers Tract 34-A. We request that half of the potential
community park be reserved through zoning on land owned by the
proponents adjacent to the area they consider to be an "ideal ballfield
site".
Golf Course location - along Rowlett Creek:
The 200 acre golf course area will be privately owned and
operated with public access allowed. The Board considers this
use appropriate and economically feasible to the City.
Therefore, the Board considers use of the land as a golf course
acceptable.
In Closing, the Parks and Recreation Board recognizes that it is an
"advisory" board only. We sincerely appreciate the opportunity to
provide input concerning this development. We look forward to
providing additional information as needed to assist staff, the Planning
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and Zoning Commission and members of the Allen City Council in
making decisions for the betterment of all Allen residents. We wish
you well in your deliberations.
cc: Jon McCarty, City Manager
Bill Petty, Director of Community Development
b. Request to Appear by Mr. Don Seale on Behalf of St. Jude Children's
Research Hospital Regarding a Fund liaising Activity on Saturday, May
15
Mr. Don Seale, resident of Allen, has volunteered to coordinate a fund
raising effort for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis
Tennessee. He requested the use of the hike and bike trail as well as
the pavilion at Ford Park for Saturday, May 15, 1993. It was
determined that Mr. Seale might contact the school district regarding
use of their property in addition to the City's property. Mr. Seale was
questioned as to the number of adult sponsors that would be on site
around the trail and Mr. Seale assured the Board an ample number
would be on hand at the site to monitor and support the riders (of
which he is expecting 35-40 riders). Mr. Seale provided the Board
with a map of the intended use area, along with a waiver of liability
that each parent must fill out before allowing their child to participate.
MOTION: Lonnie Thomas moved to approve the usage of Ford
Park bike trail and pavilion for Mr. Don Seale to hold
the bike-a-thon event on May 15, 1993 from 9 a.m. to 1
p.m. Ross Obermeyer seconded, and the motion carried
6 for, 0 against.
IV. ADJOURN
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 9 p.m.
These minutes read and approved this 15th day of June, 1993.
Tom Clark, Chairman 'm aldbauer, Secretary