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PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
REGULAR CALLED MEETING
FEBRUARY 14, 1994 - 7:30 P.M.
Lonnie Thomas, Chairman
Jim Waldbauer, Vice -Chairman
Ross Obermeyer, Secretary
Frank Maitland
Byron Nielsen
MEMBERS ABSENT
Ray Galloway
Leah Magruder
GUESTS PRESENT
Randy Mayberry
Jim Genneken
Sheree Claxton
Chris Bedenbaugh
Jenny Ridnour
Brad Ridnour
Scott Hill
Barry Massey
Sally Terrell
Tom Lunsford
Joy Gatlin
STAFF PRESENT
Rhoda Savage, Director of Parks and Recreation
Sue Witkowski, Secretary
Mike Isermam, Park Superintendent
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Larry Kirk, Program Coordinator
Sandy McGowan, Special Activities Coordinator
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:33 p.m., by Chairman Lonnie Thomas
II. CITIZENS COMMENTS
Chairman, Lonnie Thomas invited any guests wishing to speak at this time to
come forward, but if they were wishing to speak to a particular agenda item,
they were welcome to speak now, or wait until that agenda item came up for
discussion by the Board.
III. APPROVE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR CALLED MEETING ON
JANUARY 11, 1994, THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF JANUARY
20 1994. AND THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8.
1994
MOTION: Frank Maitland moved to accept the Minutes from January 11,
1994 Regular Called Meeting as amended. Byron seconded, and
the Motion carried, 5 for, 0 against.
MOTION: Ross Obermeyer moved to accept the Minutes from January 20,
1994 Special Called Meeting as presented. Jim Waldbauer
seconded, and the Motion carried, 5 for, 0 against.
MOTION: Jim Waldbauer moved to accept the Minutes from February 8,
1994, Special Called Meeting, as amended. Ross Obermeyer
seconded, and the Motion carried, 5 for, 0 against.
IV. PRESENTATION BY RON HOBBS REGARDING RECREATION
CENTER AND ARF MASTER PLAN
Ron Hobbs, Architect presented the Board with "working models" of the
proposed facilities at Bethany Lakes. His first presentation involved the
proposed Primary Facility. He outlined the primary components, and their
relationship to the exterior walls as well as the water. The exterior "wing"
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walls were discussed, regarding their length, and if they would allow mess
from the exterior of the building, or only from the interior. Ron indicated that
they could be constructed either way Ron also indicated that the roofing
material used on the Primary Facility could be compatible with the roofing
material already in place on the pavilion at Bethany Lakes.
Following the architect's presentation on the Primary Facility, he made a
presentation on the Recreation Center. Ron provided a "working model" that
could be separated into various components of the whole. He indicated that
some of the components could become modules that may or may not be
included under the current budget available. Some modules could be phased in
at a later date, as more funding becomes available,
Ron briefly went over the proposed dollar amounts associated with each aspect
of the recreation center, including utilities to the facility, restrooms, kitchen,
racquetball courts, upper corridors, staff areas, exercise areas, stage, and
jogging track. Some of the preliminary dollar amounts are as follows:
Ramp $ 103,000
Restroom and Kitchen (upstairs) 24,000
Racquetball Courts 175,000
Exercise Area 143,000
Staff Areas 66,000
Game and Lounge Area 45,000
Locker Rooms and Restrooms (downstairs) 73,500
Jogging Track 30,000
Gymnasium 550,000
Ron indicated that preliminary figures totaled $1,$35,000 (including profit and
overhead). That number came to $1,225,000 prior to the profit and overhead
amount being added.
Rhoda was asked where the City stood regarding bond funds that might be
available for this project, and she indicated that at the current time, there were
approximately $2,000,000 in bond money that is sold and unexpended. This
includes savings, and interest earned, as well as funding that had been "ear-
marked" for other projects. Rhoda indicated that she would be going to
Council at their next meeting (February 17, 1994) with a funding
recommendation. Ron Hobbs indicated that we would need to be setting a
budget within the next two weeks for the Primary Facility construction, as well
as the Recreation Center Construction. It was determined that the FATSSO
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Subcommittee would meet Friday, following the Council meeting on the 17th
to review the funding of these facilities.
The Board requested that Council be asked that any funding were available,
that it be directed toward the Primary Facility and Recreation Center.
V CONSIDER A REQUEST BY JOY GATLIN TO USE BETHANY LAKES
PARK FOR SUMMER CAMP SITE
Joy Gatlin appeared before the Board representing the Tejas Council of Girl
Scouts. She indicated that due to the enormous growth being experienced in
Allen, it had been determined that Allen needed its own day camp program for
the coming summer, rather than go to Plano. Joy appeared before the Board
to ask for the use of Bethany Lakes Park from July 18 to July 22 during the
evening hours. She indicated that no fees would be collected on site, and that
a registered nurse would be on site at all times. She also indicated there
would be a ratio of 6 girls to one counselor, plus the administrative staff that
would be on hand at all times.
MOTION: Frank Maitland moved to grant the use of Bethany Lakes park
to the Girl Scouts from July 18 to July 22 during the evening
hours, pending any conditions put forward by the Parks and
Recreation Department. Byron Nielsen seconded, and the
motion carried, 5 for, 0 against.
VI. CONSIDER REQUEST BY ALLEN JAYCEES TO USE FORD PARK
FOR ANNUAL EASTER EGG HUNT
Rhoda reported that the Jaycees have held their annual Easter Egg Hunt in a
City park for many years. Usually, they ask that the Parks Department not
mow for a few days prior to the hunt. They will not be selling anything on
site, and have asked the Senior Citizens to become involved in their efforts by
making 'Boo Boo Bunnies" to be used during the hunt. They will need the
entire Ford Park facility from 10 a.m. until 4 p.m. on Saturday, March 26,
1994. It was determined that the game fields would be under use for
organized athletics at the time, and therefore would not be used for the Easter
Egg Hunt.
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MOTION: Ross Obermeyer moved to allow the Jaycees to hold their annual
Easter Egg Hunt at Ford Park on Saturday, March 26, 1994,
pending any conditions put forward by the Parks and Recreation
Department. Frank Maitland seconded, and the Motion carried,
5 for, 0 against.
VH. APPROVE PROCESS FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF UCBC
PROPOSAL
Chairman Lonnie Thomas invited anyone wishing to speak to the Board
regarding the Batting Cages at Ford Park to please do so at this time.
Mr. Scott Hill of 707 Victorian Drive, Allen, Texas 75002 indicated that he
was the spokesman for a group of residents living near Ford Park, as well as a
member of the ad hoc committee appointed by City Council to review the
issue. Mr. Hill indicated that he had prepared a proposed process for
determining a needs assessment regarding batting cages in Allen. The
highlights of Mr. Hill's proposal were as follows:
1. Survey Allen to Determine Need.
2. IF the Survey indicates true need in the community, conduct an
independent study of ALL available sites.
3. If a need has been determined and a suitable site can be found, begin
the open bid process.
Mr. Hill asked the Board to consider his suggestion and approve a process at
this meeting. Lonnie indicated that was the intention of the Board.
Barry Massey, 724 Pulitzer Lane, Allen, Texas 75002, appeared before the
Board as a member of the ad hoc committee, and opposed to the wording on
the agenda that the Board was considering "Consideration of UCBC Proposal'
He felt the issue was not the UCBC proposal, but batting cages in Allen.
Randy Mayberry, 11 Glenbrook, Lucas, Texas spoke to the Board representing
Unique Concepts in Batting Cages, and asked the Board to be allowed to be a
part of the discussion of the proposal and offer closing comments at the end of
the discussion. Randy also wanted the Board to note that at the current time,
no video games of any kind are being proposed in the buildings associated
with the batting cages.
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Ross Obermeyer, Park Board Representative to the ad hoc conunittee, read a
report from himself and Frank Maitland with the summary being as follows:
"The sub -committee discussed several topics including traffic at Ford,
crime at Ford, and the impact batting cages would have if allowed to
be built. The use of the city owned land for private use, long-term
success of a batting cage venture at Ford, and details of the specific
UCBC contract were also discussed at length. Opponents from the
neighborhood group had a petition with over 250 signatures against the
proposed cages. No consensus was achieved on any of the issues at
hand and Mike Nichols proposed a compromise.
The committee accepted Mike's recommendation to request the Park
Board to outline a process to address the question of batting cages in
Allen, specifically at Ford Park. The Park Board's mission would be
to define a process that comprehends both the need of batting cages and
subsequent steps if a need is determined. With the Park Board's
endorsement of the process, Frank and I would then present the
proposed process to the Council's sub -committee."
Mr. Barry Massey indicated that he was opposed to the wording of
"specifically at Ford Park".
Ross then read a proposal he had drawn up and indicated that this was an
information only item, and would hopefully initiate a discussion on defining a
process for determining the need for batting cages in Allen.
Lonnie Thomas asked each Board Member for input regarding the process.
Byron Nielsen indicated that if a survey was used, it should contain as much
information as possible, and not be only the issue of batting cages.
Frank Maitland was opposed to mailing the survey to only registered voters in
Allen, as he felt many of them did not play softball. Ross indicated he felt
that just because you did not play ball at Ford Park didn't mean that you did
not have a valid input to make regarding the issue.
Rhoda indicated that she felt a needs analysis was a great place to start the
process. Following a lengthy discussion, Lonnie Thomas proposed the
■.i following process:
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1. Needs Assessment
a. Parks and Recreation Department to develop a survey
and methodology
b. Review survey with ad hoc committee
C. Conduct survey
d. Conduct open workshop to discuss findings of survey
e. Determine final need
f. Report back to Board on final needs assessment
2. Determine logistics contingent upon needs assessment
The issue of timing came up and Rhoda asked the proponents about their time
constraints. They indicated "the sooner the better" would meet their needs,
but that they could build the cages anytime. Rhoda indicated that should
would need 24 weeks to develop a survey document, 6 weeks to complete the
process for a total of 10 weeks.
■�% Frank Maitland indicated that the Little League Baseball would be moving
�t their baseball games to Hillside for this year, and that might directly affect the
location desired by the proponents.
Lonnie Thomas asked both UCBC representatives and the interested citizens if
anyone had any closing remarks to be made. None were heard.
MOTION: Frank Maitland moved to recommend the following process to
the ad hoc committee:
1. Needs Assessment
a. Parks and Recreation Department to
develop a survey and methodology
b. Review survey with ad hoc committee
C. Conduct survey
d. Conduct open workshop to discuss findings
of survey
e. Determine final need
I. Report back to Board on final needs
assessment
2. Determine logistics contingent upon needs
assessment
Byron Nielsen seconded, and the motion carried 5 for, 0
against.
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The following people filled out cards in opposition to the batting cages, but did
not wish to speak before the Board:
Sheree Claxton, 722 PuLitzer, Allen, Texas
Chris Bedenhaugh, 712 Pulitzer Lane, Allen, Texas
Jenny Ridnour, 723 Victorian, Allen, Texas
Brad Ridnour, 723 Victorian, Allen, Texas
VIII. REQUEST TO APPEAR BY TOM LUNSFORD REGARDING LITTLE
LEAGUE SCHEDULE
Mr. Tom Lunsford representing the Little League and speaking independent of
the ASA appeared before the Parks and Recreation Board indicating that
originally concerns had arisen over the Field Use Policy. He indicated that
since the original concerns had arisen, a meeting was held this past Saturday,
February 12, 1994 with Larry Kirk, the Allen Sports Association, and the
Little League. Rickey Gillean proposed that two Ford fields be traded for two
Hillside fields for this year only. Mr. Lunsford indicated that all issues had
been resolved, and thanked the Parks Department, Sally Terrell and Robin
Sedlacek for their efforts in resolving this issue.
IX. STAFF PRESENTATIONS I.E., ANNUAL WORK PROGRAMS
Sandy McGowan, Special Activities Coordinator for the City of Allen
presented her annual Activities Calendar to the Board and briefly reviewed her
responsibilities in the Parks and Recreation Department. Sandy provided a
copy of the Senior Citizens Newsletter to the Board for their information, and
fielded several questions andcomments from various Board members.
Larry Kirk reviewed his activities with the Board and presented them with
budgets for various programs he is anticipating offering during the upcoming
season. Larry reported that the air conditioning charges were effecting
athletics being offered in the school district gymnasiums. Larry also reviewed
his calendar for the year and indicated he had ideas for new programs that he
would be bringing to the Board in the near future.
Mike Isermano provided the Board with a copy of his Annual Park
�i Maintenance Plan, andbriefly reviewed the highlights of that plan. Mike then
discussed his Grounds and Turf Maintenance Plan as well as the 1994 Safety
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Training Topics and Job Training Topics and the fertilization schedule. The
Board indicated their pleasure in Mike's emphasis on athletic field conditions,
as that was an area of major concern for the Board and Department.
X. APPROVE PROPOSED RECREATION PROGRAMS AND FEES
Sandy McGowan came forward to report that she wanted to raise the daily
entrance to the pool fee from $1.50 per visit to $1.75. The Board requested
that "scholarship" monies be made available for children who might not have
the funds to buy a season pass or pay the $1.75 per day Sandy said the
Department would investigate advertising this information in the Summertimes
Brochures produced by the Parks Department,
XI. APPROVE STANDARDS FOR TWIN CREEU 10 ACRE BALL171ELD
SITE
Rhoda provided the Board members with the exact wording in the zoning of
�I Twin Creeks Development:
NEIGHBORHOOD PARK (PUBLIC):
A. To address the city's needs for organized play fields, as Phase I
of the platting activities of this development, the
owner/developer shall fully develop two baseball fields and two
soccer fields including landscaping, irrigation and the lighting of
the baseball fields and a 100 space parking lot as indicated in
Attachment A.1, Golf Club and Community Recreation plan,
which shall he attached to a made a part of this ordinance.
B. This 11 acre tract will be improved to the City of Allen
standards and dedicated to the City of Allen within 30 months
from the time that the first final plat in this development is
approved by the City of Allen.
Rhoda provided the Board with bound copies of the standards developed for
the Twin Creeks Ballfields. They have been delivered to Brett Johnston with
Arvida, and the City was told it was staked and ready to go. They also
indicated they had design standards already in place, and would be getting in
touch with the City regarding possible differences in the standards.
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Lonnie Thomas requested that if at all possible, a good working relationship be
maintained with the Twin Creeks Developers and that the standards be
negotiable.
MOTION: Byron Nielsen moved to accept the standards as they apply to
the eleven acres of property at Twin Creeks. Jim Waldbauer
seconded, and the Motion carried, 5 for, 0 against.
XII. INFORMATION ITEM - MAYOR'S REOUEST FOR BOARD'S
REVIEW OF SPECIFIC ISSUES (I.E., BOARD MEMBER LENGTH OF
TERMS, ABSENTEEISM. ETC.)
As an information only item, Rhoda provided the Board with a list of
questions that will be expanded upon in the near future. The list of questions
deal with the following issues as they pertain to the Parks and Recreation
Board:
i 1. Length of Term
2. Term Limits
3. Attendance
4. Rules of Operation
Further updates will be provided in the near future on the above issues.
IV. ADJOURN
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 10:18 p.m.
These minutes read and approved this 14 t day of 21axck, 1994
�YVvUR K &env
Lonnie Thomas, Chairman
Ross O eyer, ecretary