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MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
REGULAR CALLED MEETING
MARCH 18, 1996 - 6 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Jim Waldbauer, Vice -Chairman
Dan Turner
Mark Stout
Leah Magruder, Secretary
Byron Nielsen
Mike Rippe
MEMBERS ABSENT
None
GUESTS PRESENT
Art Evans, ASA Softball Commissioner
STAFF PRESENT
Rhoda L. Savage, Director of Parks and Recreation
Tim Dentler, Parks Superintendent
Larry Kirk, Program Coordinator
Sandy McGowan, Special Activities Coordinator
Sue Witkowski, Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7.35 p.m., by Vice -Chairman, Jim Waldbauer.
Chairman, Lonnie Thomas was appointed to the Allen City Council at their
Regular Meeting on March 7, 1996, and therefore effective immediately is no
longer on the Allen Parks and Recreation Board.
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II. CITIZENS COMMENTS
There were no citizens present wishing to speak to the Board.
III, APPROVE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 12, 1996, REGULAR CALLED
MEETING
MOTION: Mark Stout moved to accept the minutes from February 12, 1996
Regular Called Meeting as presented. Dan Turner seconded, the
Motion carried 6 for, 0 against.
IV. GRAND OPENING OF JOE FARMER RECREATION CENTER UPDATE
Jim Waldbauer reported that the grand opening festivities are on schedule with the
luncheon plans as well as public tours and entertainment plans. Jim asked
available Parks and Recreation Board Members to serve as ushers in the "VIP
Seating" section. This will entail greeting guests while welcoming them to the Joe
Farmer Recreation Center. Plans were reviewed for the VIP Parking and shuttle
service from Vaughn Elementary, beginning at 4 p.m.
V. CONSIDER FOR APPROVAL HOURS OF OPERATION AT JOE FARMER
RECREATION CENTER
Sandy McGowan, Special Activities Coordinator, presented the Board with a plan
to keep the Joe Farmer Recreation Center open during the following hours:
Monday, Wednesday, Friday .. 6 a.m. to 10 p.m.
Tuesday and Thursday 12 Noon to 10 p.m.
Monday and Tuesday (leagues from 6 to 10 p.m.)
Saturday ... 10 a.m. to 6 p.m.
Sunday ... 1 p.m. to 6 p.m.
Sandy informed the Board that the four full time permanent people could work
these hours, and cover vacations and other off-duty times with part-time personnel.
Following a brief discussion, it was determined that these hours would be used on
a trial basis and adjusted according to the demand and needs of the public after
opening of the center. It was also questioned whether the adult league play was
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an appropriate use of the facility on Monday and Tuesday evenings. Also.
Saturday Night Live programs will be run out of the recreation center on three
Saturday evenings each month. These evenings will be by age groups, and one
Saturday evening will be left open for special programming events. Sandy
indicated that her staff was pleased with the proposed hours of operation.
MOTION: Leah Magruder moved to accept the proposed hours as presented.
Mark Stout moved to second and the motion carried 6 for, 0
against.
VI. CONSIDER FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL A FEE POLICY FOR PARKS
AND RECREATION PROGRAMS
Director Rhoda Savage gave the Board a brief background on the Ordinance that
establishes fees to be charged by the Department for services offered. She also
reviewed the procedure for updating those fees: fust to Parks and Recreation Board
for presentation and recommendation, then to City Council for presentation and
approval. She is recommending a fee policy be developed that would take these
fees out of ordinance, and place the responsibility for setting fees annually with the
Parks and Recreation Board. She also recommended doing a 25-75 % split if on
a contractual basis (programs at recreation center, etc).
Following a discussion, it was determined that a subcommittee from the Board
would be appropriate to work with staff on the development of this policy for
presentation to the City Council. Rhoda would like to have the policy in place for
the fall of 1996. Leah Magruder and Mark Stout volunteered to work with staff
in the pursuit of this policy
VII. CONSIDER FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL A REQUEST TO CHARGE
ADMISSION TO TOURNAMENTS SPONSORED BY ASA GIRLS
SOFTBALL
Mr Art Evans, ASA Softball Commissioner, presented a request that had
originally been made to the Allen City Council regarding the request to charge $2
per day for adults and $1 per day for children to attend girls softball tournaments
scheduled for Ford Park this year. This request had been made by Mr Mark
Stout, ASA President and Parks and Recreation Board Member. During this
process, the City Manager had requested a statement from the Director regarding
Ithis issue
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Rhoda indicated that while she very much supported the ASA and tournaments
being held in Allen, her preference would be to accept donations, rather than
charge admission. The background she provided the Board included information
regarding a tournament which took place last year in which a parent became upset
with the City because ASA had failed to obtain proper permit from Council to
charge admission, and his son had been asked to pay admission at Ford Park.
A lengthy discussion followed in which several alternatives were discussed. The
overhead for the ASA and ways ASA could host tournaments and not loose money
was discussed. The tournament facility rental fee charged by the City was
discussed, and the possibility of waiving that fee for non-profit organizations such
as ASA. The Director indicated that would be preferable to charging admission.
Mr. Evans felt that would be taking money away from the City, and wanted
visitors to Allen to pay the gate fee rather than ask for a waiver of the $30 per
team fee charged by Parks and Recreation for field rental.
Rhoda indicated that at this time she needed the Board to make a decision on the
direction they wanted to take regarding the closing of public facilities for private
use.
Mark Stout, ASA President and Parks and Recreation Board member emphasized
that they needed to break even and that they were in fact, losing money without
the ability to charge a gate fee. He indicated that the Allen ASA Girls Softball
Program would be hosting 5 tournaments this year and that all other Cities (except
Plano) charge a gate fee for spectators at these same type of tournaments. He
indicated that the people attending these tournaments expect to pay this gate fee,
and that they are 95 % out of town people, not taxpayers in Allen.
Dan Turner asked Art Evans what difference he would foreseen in charging a gate
fee vs accepting donations, he indicated that he felt it would not make that much
difference, that the people that were going to be there to watch the tournament
would probably pay the donation. He felt the parents bringing their daughters to
the tournament are used to paying and would therefore pay no matter how the
request was made.
Jim Waldbauer indicated his concern with the new recreation center coming on line
that people would be wanting to charge admission to various functions in the
center, and the decision tonight could be setting a precedence.
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Mike Rippe inquired as to the feasibility of raising the tournament fee to cover
expenses, and was told that they would not be competitive if they were to do so,
and teams would go to other cities for their tournaments.
MOTION: Leah Magruder moved to recommend Council allow donations to
be accepted at these tournaments sponsored by ASA Girls Softball.
Mike Rippe moved to amend the Motion by including the statement
that the hosts of the tournament would work with City Staff and
City Staff would approve the signage to be displayed at these events
regarding the acceptance of donations.
Byron Nielsen seconded, and the Motion carried 5 for, 0 against.
Mark Stout abstained from voting due to a conflict of interest as he
is the ASA president and hosting the tournaments.
VIII. SOLICIT INPUT REGARDING SPRING PLANNING SESSION WITH CITY
COUNCIL
Rhoda indicated that for the fust time, the Board Chairmen were invited to present
to the Allen City Council during their Spring Planning Session. She indicated that
this Spring Planning Session is a pre -budgetary meeting of Council, Staff, and this
year, involves various Board and Commission Chairs.
Rhoda told the Board it was a great opportunity to present various long-term and
broad issues to the Council. Some of the suggestions were as follows:
Facility Useage - non-profit vs profit
Corporate Sponsorship
Maintenance Budgets for Existing Facilities
Empowering of the Parks and Recreation Board
Update of Comprehensive Plan Regarding Definition of Buffer Between
Development and Floodplain and Tree/Creek Lines
1995 Issue - Cottonwood Creek Historical Dam
1995 Issue - Define Neighborhood/Community Parks
IX. UPDATE ON HALF CENT SALES TAX ELECTION
Rhoda announced that the 'hc Sales Tax Election would be held on May 4, and
encouraged all Board members to work toward the successful passage of this
election. Other cities have benefited greatly from the passage of this issue, and
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Allen can move ahead much faster with the additional revenue generated. Much
of the money generated would be from sales made outside the City of Allen by
companies such as Photronics, TRW, and DLM, etc.
XI. ADJOURN
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9.44 p.m.
These minutes read and approved this 8th day of April, 1996.
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Jim aldbauer, Chairman
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Secretary