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PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
REGULAR CALLED MEETING
JULY 13, 1998 - 7:30 P.M.
PARB MEMBERS PRESENT
Mark Stout, Chairman
Mike Rippe, Vice -Chairman
Kevin Pierce
Anne Campbell, Secretary
Dan Turner
Laurette Zamparelli
MEMBERS ABSENT
Cheri Jones
GUESTS PRESENT
11 Aubrey Adcock, Huitt and Zollars Engineering
STAFF PRESENT
Tim Dentler, Park Superintendent
Larry Kirk, Athletic/Aquatic Programs Supervisor
Sue Witkowski, Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman, Mark Stout called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
II. CITIZEN COMMENTS
Mark invited all citizens wishing to speak to the Board on a subject other
than what was on the agenda to please do so at this time. None present
were wishing to speak at this time.
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III. APPROVE MINUTES FROM JUNE 8, 1998, REGULAR CALLED
MEETING
MOTION:
Anne Campbell moved to accept the Minutes as presented,
Mike Rippe seconded, and the Motion carried, 4 for, 0
against, and 2 abstaining.
IV. ENGINEERING REPORT ON COTTONWOOD CREEK BRIDGE
Tun Derider introduced Mr Aubrey Adcock to the Board and guests,
and indicated that there was $133,000 funded by the Allen Community
Development Corporation Board for this bridge connecting Ford Middle
School and the neighborhood immediately to the west.
Chairman Mark Stout told the guests that there had been several public
meetings held by the Allen Community Development Corporation Board
prior to the final approval, and that tonight's meeting was to decide on
the placement of that bridge.
Mr Adcock representing the engineering firm of Huitt and Zollars made
a brief presentation to the guests and Board outlining the four
recommended crossing points and discussed briefly the advantages and
disadvantages of each of these points. He also used aerial photographs
to present the proposed crossing points, and their relativity to the
homeowners and Ford Middle School. Mr Adcock shared with the
guests and Board the possible costs associated with the various options
depending upon the length of the bridge. Mr Adcock also informed that
Board that a possible 25 foot area would need to be cleared for the crane
to set the bridge.
Following this brief presentation, the following citizens spoke to the
Board regarding the proposed bridge and the impact into their
neighborhood:
CLEVELAND BASINGER
622 Wheat Ridge Rd
390-9856
Mr. Basinger spoke briefly as to the location of his home, impact upon
his property, and lot premiums paid for living directly across from the
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greenbelt. He questioned the number of people who would be using the
bridge on a daily basis, how wide the bridge would, and if the greenbelt
was part of the City of Allen park system. Mr. Basinger wanted the
record to reflect that he is absolutely, fervently opposed to the bridge
being placed in front of his home.
DONNA COCHRAN
813 Rockcrossing
390-9091
Ms. Cochran spoke the Board regarding her concerns that an increase in
activities such as pot smoking, graffiti, and beer drinking would be seen
as a result of the placement of this bridge. She indicated that there was
already somewhat of a problem near her home and that the Allen Police
Department make regular patrols of area in question. She felt like
further access to this area would only make the problem worse, and
suggested that the bridge cross from Ford Middle School into an
industrial area just north of the neighborhood in question. Privacy was
also an issue with Ms. Cochran, since she is already experiencing
problems in her yard with intruders.
KAREN CRAVEN
812 Rivergrove
727-1642
Ms. Craven spoke to the Board in support of the proposed bridge. She
indicated that one side of her yard is on the greenbelt, and that she very
much likes the traffic that the trail invites. She indicated that she had
called the City several times asking for this bridge. She spoke to the fact
that she drives her daughter to school (Ford Middle School) because of
the dangerous access now available. She indicated the short bridge
would be most appealing to her
JEFF COLE
712 Featherbrook
727-4836
Mr Cole indicated that he felt the industrial area was not a good point
for children to be entering, particularly when development takes place.
He also indicated that the most direct path for children to take would be
the best one from a safety standpoint. He also agreed that while some
children like to crawl down and cross the stream, some do not and that
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those wanting to play in the stream will continue to do so. He was in
favor of placing the bridge within the boundaries of the neighborhood.
DAVID FLETCHER
620 Wheat Ridge Rd
390-7841
Mr. Fletcher felt that there were better places to spend $133,000 than on
the bridge, and that kids would use the most direct route and that might
not be the bridge. He did not want the bridge in his front yard.
AL DRINGENBERG
618 Wheat Ridge Rd
N/A
Mr. Dringenberg introduced himself to the Board and indicated that he
had recently purchased his home, and had no idea that a bridge was
being proposed for the area. He reported that if he had known about the
plans, he would not have purchased the home. He was concerned about
increased activity in the area, parking problems on his street, supervision
of children in the area.
MATHEW LOY
716 Featherbrook Ct
390-7456
Mr. Loy indicated he wanted the bridge to be placed the furthest distance
from his house, and was not in favor of the wide path that might need to
be cut to place this bridge.
NANCY PICKUP
710 Featherbrook Court
390-2042
Ms. Pickup thanked the Board and City of Allen for their action on this
bridge, and reported that she was told by the developer/sales staff when
she purchased her home that a bridge would be placed over Cottonwood
Creek to allow access to the middle school. She reminded the meeting
participants that adults would be using this bridge as well as the children
crossing to and from school, and she felt strongly that increased access
to Ford Park would offer different activities for she and her family She
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has been driving her children to school, the pool, athletic practices, and
feels that the bridge will offer a much safer route to and from school.
SCOTT COLE
710 Rockcrossing Lane
396-7761
Mr. Cole reported that he was in support of the bridge, but wanted to
offer options to the Board such as natural screening with landscaping at
both ends of the bridge. He suggested several native trees that would do
well in this area and make it more palatable to residents living close to
the west end of this cross over.
PETER SILANDER
626 Wheat Ridge Rd
727-5828
Mr. Silander wants it placed where it would have the most visibility by
both the school officials and residents. He felt that visibility was key to
the safety aspects of this footbridge.
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PATTI LOCKLEAR
616 Wheat Ridge Road
727-4968
Ms. Locklear was concerned about the possible drop-off traffic that
might occur in front of her house by parents living outside her
neighborhood, as well as parking during football games, concerts, etc.
Ms. Locklear suggested that the bridge be placed on the border of her
neighborhood and the neighborhood immediately south, thus splitting the
neighborhood access. She also questioned whether the bridge could be
angled more.
SCOTT SULLIVAN
802 Rivergrove Rd
727-1040
Mr Sullivan indicated he had two children and his main concern in the
issue was the safety of all children. He indicated it needed to be placed
with an open area for visibility, and recommended it be placed in the
middle of the greenbelt area.
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The following people filled out the Public Meeting Appearance Card, but
requested not to speak:
ANNETTE WIMSATT
715 Featherbrook Court
727-8424 - indicated support for Option #3
KARLA WARD
617 Sagebrush Lane
390-7732 - indicated support for Option #3
MIKE DURAN
609 Harvest Mountain Court
396-8272 - indicated support for Option U3
DAVID FRANKS
601 Falling Leaf
390-2879 - indicated support for the bridge
PEG RAH
714 Featherbrook Court
390-2180 - indicated support for Option #3
MELODY KUMMER
602 Heartland
390-2491 - indicated support for bridge
Mark Stout thanked each of the attendees for their interest and time spent
coming to this meeting. Mark reminded everyone that the decision to be
made was not whether the bridge would be placed, but where it would be
placed.
Board member Kevin Pierce spoke to the group and briefly reminded
them that in terms of clearing land for the bridge placement, the City of
Allen would be required to have a tree removal permit and replace trees
of a certain caliper if removed.
Chairman, Mark Stout closed the public meeting, and called for a recess
at 8:57 p.m. The meeting was reconvened at 9:08 p.m.
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Tim Dentler invited each of the guests to visit footbridges installed at
Vaughan Elementary over Cottonwood Creek, as well as the footbridge
at Allen Station Park. Each of which required a minimal of clearing on
either side, and therefore had a minimum impact on the surrounding
area.
Laurelle Zamparelli questioned whether the Allen Independent School
District or the Allen Police Department had been polled for their input
into the placement of this bridge. Tim Dentler indicated that they had
not.
It was pointed out that the bridge would invite more family traffic and
therefore more adults would be around the facility
Anne Campbell indicated that her primary concerns were the cost,
convenience and safety and felt that Option #3 best satisfied her
concerns, with possible natural landscaping providing screening around
the entrances and exits of the bridge.
MOTION: Mike Rippe moved to accept the Huitt and Zollars
proposal of Option #3 with appropriate screening being
put into place. Dan Turner seconded and amended the
Motion to include wording "minimize the impact to
surrounding area" The Motion carried, 6 for, 0
against.
Anne Campbell questioned whether or not there would be water available
in the greenbelt to maintain the screening plant material to be placed
there. Tim Deader indicated he would need to check on the nearest
water source. Mr Bassinger indicated that he would be glad to help
support any efforts to water the material after planted.
V. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS:
Council/Board Liaison
Subcommittee did not meet.
Capital Improvements/Long Range Planning
Subcommittee did not meet.
Funding Raising/Sponsorship
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Larry Kirk reported that the subcommittee had met to consider a
proposal brought before the Board at their last meeting by Mr. Scott
Giauque of Plano to place batting cages and a practice facility in Allen.
Larry reported that the subcommittee decided that batting cages were
needed in Allen, and the subcommittee also determined that these should
be public owned, rather than privately owned. Larry Kirk and Don
Horton have been directed by the subcommittee to develop a proposal
regarding batting cages in Allen.
Programming Athletic/Aquatics
Anne Campbell reported that the Natatorium Planning Committee had
met on June 17'", 1998 with Brinkley Sargent Architects along with
invited guests and user groups. This was an all day meeting held at
Anderson Elementary, and some of the user groups invited to offer input
into the planning process were:
Allen Independent School District
COAST Coaches
COAST participants
Senior Citizens
PTA Representatives
City of Allen
Anne announced that the outcome of this meeting would be presented in
a report at a joint City of Allen City Council and Allen Independent
School District Board meeting.
VI. DISCUSSION ON BOND PROJECTS
Tim Derider provided the Board with a list of projects regarding 1) Land
Acquisition, 2) New Facility Development and Site and 3) Facility
Renovation and Upgrade projects. He asked that the Board review the
list of projects and begin thinking of the possibility of a Bond election
and what projects the Parks and Recreation Department might benefit
from. Tun indicated that the Allen City Council would probably be
appointing a Bond Committee.
VII. PRELIMINARY ALLEN STATION PARK EXPENSE REPORT
Tim Deader provided the Board with a preliminary expense report on
Allen Station Park, explaining that these expenses were by no means
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complete, due to the fact that Cedar Drive is still under construction, and
therefore still having bills come in. In addition, there is funding to be
reimbursed by Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, and a lighting
package yet to be added to the Cedar Drive project. Sheila Condon of
Clark Condon Associates has been asked to do a proposal for a Master
Plan regarding Phase II. Tim also reported that the CASPER
(Committee for Allen Station Planning Education and Recreation) will
be reactivated, and reminded the Board that this is a City Council -
appointed subcommittee.
Chairman Mark Stout indicated the would like to see "lightening
detector" systems installed at Allen Station Park along with a flagpole
with any available funding. Tim Dentler indicated he would check into
the legal boundaries of purchasing items not in the budget and what
funds would be available.
VIII. WRAP-UP REPORT ALLEN USA CELEBRATION
Larry Kirk reported that the videos and photographs will be available at
the next Parks and Recreation Board meeting, he also reported that a
budget of $52,000 was set, and that the program came in within budget.
Larry reported that all but $5,000 came from sponsorships, and that the
$5,000 came from the Enterprise Fund.
IX. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUEST
Batting Cages Study
Shadow Lakes Residents Concerns
Public Appearance/Citizens Comments
Need to Set Rules Regarding Time Limitations and Criteria for
Addressing Board
X. ADJOURN
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:06
p.m.
These minutes read and approved this 10th day of August, 1998.
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