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SPECIAL CALLED MEETING
NOVEMBER 18, 1992
ATTENDANCE:
Commission Members Present:
John Garcia, Chairman (arrived 7:00 p. m.)
Harold Biggs, Vice -Chairman
Kenneth Falk, Secretary
Douglas Gallagher
Jeffery Kelley
Steve Allen (arrived 7:25 p.m.)
Noel Crume
Commission Members Absent:
None
City Staff Present:
Bill Petty, Director of Community Development
Tom Keener, Development Coordinator
Sally Leeper, Secretary
Dave Whitehead, Director of Public Works
Rhoda Savage, Director of Parks and Recreation
CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCE A QUORUM:
With a quorum of the Commissioners present, the Allen Planning & Zoning Com-
mission was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Vice -Chairman Biggs at the Allen
Municipal Annex, City Council Chambers, One Butler Circle, Allen, Texas.
Approve Minutes
November 11 1992
(Agenda Item II)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as follows:
"Approve minutes of November 11, 1992, Regular meeting."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Commissioner Crume and a second by Commissioner
Gallagher, the Commission voted 6 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve
the minutes of November 11, 1992, as presented.
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 18, 1992 PAGE 2
Workshop Session
Revisions to Subdivision Ordinance (Agenda Item III)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as follows:
"Workshop Session to consider Revisions to Subdivision Ordinance."
Mr. Keener reviewed Section 305 -General Development Plan. No changes were
indicated at this time.
Mr. Petty discussed certain recommendations for changes to the preposed text of
Section 306. A final plat must be approved within 30 days if it conforms to the
approved preliminary plat. This indicates that any subjectivity must be included
at the time of preliminary plat. Present regulations require a flood plain study to
be completed before the property is platted. There is sometimes a need to save
certain trees that are outside the flood plain. Staff is suggesting that at the time
of the General Development Plan, reviewed by staff, language be inserted that
tells the developer that they will need to address issues of concern to staff and
the Park Board. The Park Board would be able to make a recommendation to the
Commission that a certain stand of trees be saved and a street not be routed
through them.
In subdivision planning, all requirements must be up front and provided to
developers.
Ms. Savage stated that the language to be proposed would come from the Linear
Greenbelt Study. Certain recommendations that are included in the Greenbelt
Study would be included as requirements in the Subdivision Ordinance.
Presently, there is a policy stating that any flood plain property will be dedicated
to the City. It is proposed that the flood plain be either dedicated as a public use
easement or be dedicated by fee simple title to the City of Allen. This would allow
a development to make use of the flood plain, but allow the City an easement
across it.
Chairman Garcia discussed the following issues:
1. Does the City want all of the flood plain?
2. What about property containing environmental hazards?
3. Does the flood plain count as part of park dedication?
Mr. Petty stated that if an easement is given, the owner still owns the property.
All flood plain should be taken by the City to protect the floodway. If the City
takes the property, it would not be legal to require them to clean it up.
Ms. Savage stated that the City could possibly require some kind of soil testing
before accepting the property as park land. It was questionable whether it would
be appropriate to require developers to complete a testing process before they
dedicate land to the City. Possibly, if the flood plain is dedicated by fee simple
title, this would require an environmental study.
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 18, 1992 PAGE 3
Workshop Session
Revisions to Subdivision Ordinance (Cont.) (A¢enda Item III)
Ms. Savage offered to investigate possible language that would protect the City in
this regard.
Commissioner Fulk suggested that the ordinance should be fair and reasonable.
If testing is required, the language should be specific as to what that nearly
means ... are we requiring a simple soil test or a full impact study. Mr. Petty
suggested that these requirements might be included in the maintenance design
manuals, and that could be referenced.
Ms. Savage stated that only the hike and bike trails would be maintained by the
City; possibly mowed twice a month.
Mr. Whitehead added that some of the flood plain can be reclaimed. The City
Engineer has the authority to approve the recommendation to reclaim the flood
plain. Chairman Garcia discussed the issue of dirt being pushed into the flood
plain near the Bethany bridge. Mr. Whitehead stated that a sanitary sewer line is
being constructed in this area.
Ms. Savage stated that the process being proposed prior to preliminary plat will
include a requirement for permanent staking of the flood plain.
In the proposed process, the flood plain study will be completed and shown on the
preliminary plat.
There was discussion regarding work being done in the Cottonwood Bend area
and the fact that it is being done by the North Texas Municipal Water District.
Commissioner Allen discussed the fact the finished floor elevation is not shown on
the plats. He suggested that we do not have a maximum, and developers are
using fill to raise the lots adjacent to the flood plain. This changes the slope
considerably.
Mr. Whitehead discussed the fact that it is necessary that utility work be done in
the flood plain; however, the flood plain is closely monitored. Utility inspection
fees were discussed. The question of protection of the property adjacent to the
flood plain was discussed. It is possible to reroute streets to eliminate disruption
of the trees, etc.
The following process appears to properly protect the flood plain:
1. The flood plain will be marked.
2. Current standards will be enforced.
3. Additional language will be included for special interest areas.
4. Definition of the flood plain will be completed along with the preliminary
plat process.
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NOVEMBER 18, 1992 PAGE 4
Workshop Session
Revisions to Subdivision Ordinance (Cont.) (Agenda Item III)
Commissioner Fulk questioned the disposition of the flood plain if a developer
desires to build a golf course in it. Mr. Petty stated that this would be addressed
at the time of zoning. The planned development ordinance would supersede the
subdivision ordinance.
Chairman Garcia questioned whether the flood plain should be considered as
counting toward the park dedication requirements. Mr. Petty discussed the fact
that the park dedication ordinance is new, and if there are problems with it, the
Park Board and City Council should review it.
Ms. Savage stated that the City staff has the discretion to give credit for flood
fringe dedication; itis not mandatory.
Staff recommended that the Park Dedication Ordinance be referenced as Section
600 of the Subdivision Ordinance. The consensus reached at the last meeting will
be reversed, and the current Park Dedication Ordinance will be accepted.
Mr. Whitehead stated that utility inspection fees are paid before construction
begins. All other fees will be paid prior to the filing of the final plat. The final
plat will not be filed of record until the subdivision is complete, all easements are
in place, and all requirements are satisfied. At the time the plat is filed builders
would then be allowed to sell lots for home construction. All the fees are billed at
the time construction begins. Lots cannot be sold until the final plat is filed of
record. This is the reason for not filing the plat until development is completed
and accepted.
Commissioner Crume asked why dirt is being turned before preliminary plats are
presented to the Commission. Mr. Whitehead stated that developers are allowed
to move dirt before a plat is approved; however, actual development is not
allowed. The Commission advised staff that the preference is that alleys do not
exit to collector streets.
Mr. Petty advised the Commission that the schedule is getting busier and there
will be more development coming before the Commission. Staff intends to be
present at more meetings than in the past; including himself and Engineering and
Park staff. Staff is expecting a formal submission of the Twin Creeks property
on Thursday, November 19, 1992. This will necessitate a public hearing to be
scheduled for December 10, 1992.
Mr. Keener continued the review of the Subdivision Ordinance as follows:
Section 306.B.2.c. -
A definition should be included for "tree cover." The question regarding the
requirement of a tree survey will be considered later.
Mr. Whitehead stated that when the preliminary plat is approved (including
engineering) construction can begin.
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 18, 1992 PAGE 5
Workshop Session
Revisions to Subdivision Ordinance ( Cont.) (Agenda Item III)
Section 306.B.2.f -
This paragraph should be revised to remove the statement that "all" calculations
relating to the engineering should be completed at the time of preliminary plat.
Section 306. C.1 -
Change the text "Master Street Plan" to "Master Thoroughfare Plan."
Section 306. C.2 -
Distribution of copies should be indicated as follows:
Preliminary Plat for Review Purposes
a. City Departments
Community Development
Engineering
Fire
Approved Preliminary Plat:
a. City Departments
Community Development
b. Appropriate Public Utilities
TO Electric
Denton County Coop
Lone Star Gas
Cable TV
Southwestern Bell
c. County Engineer
d. Appropriate School District
Allen ISD
Plano ISD
McKinney ISD
Lovejoy ISD
e. Any other entity that the Office of Community Development considers
appropriate.
Section 306.D.1 -
Check State law regarding the timing of preliminary plat approval. If no State
law exists, the consensus was to place a 90 -day limit on approval. Add a 14 -day
time limit for developer to make corrections on a conditionally approved prelimi-
nary plat and resubmit for signature. If such corrected preliminary plat is not
returned within 14 days of receipt of a letter advising of the corrections needed,
then the preliminary plat is disapproved.
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PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 18, 1992 PAGE 6
Workshop Session
Revisions to Subdivision Ordinance (Cont.) (Agenda Item ITI)
Section 306.D.1.d -
Move this text to Section 1.a and remove the text "or conditional approval."
Section 306.D.1.e -
Add text at the end of this paragraph, "in which case a General Development Plan
will be required as stated in Section 3.04.
Section 306.D.1.h -
Thisisincorrectly numbered and should be 306.D.1.f -
Text should be considered in view of earlier statements regarding construction
beginning at the time of preliminary plat approval. Consider text such as "No
construction shall begin on the proposed improvements in the proposed subdivi-
sion prior to issuance of a Development Permit, as referred to in Section ........
ADJOURN:
Motion: Upon a motion by Commissioner Biggs and a second by Commissioner
Crume, the Commission voted 7 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to adjourn the
November 18, 1992, meeting of the Allen Planning & Zoning Commis-
sion at 9:40 p.m.
These minutes approved this /C day of , 1992.
J n Garcia, Chairman
Kenfieth Fulk, Secretary