HomeMy WebLinkAboutMin - Planning and Zoning Commission - 1994 - 06/23 - RegularALLEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 23, 1994
John Garcia, Chairman
Douglas Gallagher, Vice -Chairman
Kenneth Fulk, Secretary
Harold Biggs
Jeffery Kelley
Steve Allen
Noel Crume
Tom Keener, Development Coordinator
George Conner, Director of Public Works
Sally Leeper, Secretary
With a quorum of the Commissioners present, the Allen Planning & Zoning Commission was
called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Garcia at the City Council Chambers, One Butler
Circle, Allen, Texas.
Approve Minutes
June 9, 1994 (Agenda Item IIl
Chairman Garcia read the agenda item into the record as follows:
"Approve minutes of June 9, 1994, Regular Meeting."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Commissioner Fulk and a second by Commissioner Biggs,
'i the Commission voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the minutes of June
L 9, 1994, as presented.
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Public Hearing
Suncreek Zoning (Agenda Item III)
Chairman Garcia read the agenda item into the record as follows:
"Public Hearing - Consider a request by Plano/Allen Suncreek, Ltd., HC Associates,
Jack Evans, Jr. and the Baptist Church Loan Corporation to amend Planned Develop-
ment No. 31 (PI) 31) to include Local Retail, Office, Multi -family, Single-family,
Public and Private Community Facilities districts, and a tree preservation policy on
282.7 acres of land located south of West McDermott Drive, north of Hedgecoxe
Road, in the vicinity of proposed Alma Drive and Suncreek Boulevard, in the follow-
ing surveys and abstracts:
5 442 acres in Joseph H. Wilcox Survey, Abstract 1017;
51.175 acres in Joseph H. Wilcox Survey, Abstract 1017;
177 451 acres in Joseph H. Wilcox Survey, Abstract 1017,
1018;
33 702 acres in GW Ford Survey, Abstract 326;
10.3 acres in Joab Butler Survey, Abstract 47 and
J.H. Wilcox Survey, Abstract 1017,
4.7 acres in GW Ford Survey, Abstract 326;"
Mr Tary Arterbern, Mesa Design, and Mr. Greg Rich, Sipiela Interests, provided informa-
tion to the Commission regarding the request. Mr Arterbern presented the Commission with
a corrected Page 21 to the zoning submission. He apologized for the fact that staff had not
had an opportunity to see this correction, but that it represented a correction to mathematical
errors. It did reflect an increase in overall density of 146 units.
Mr. Rich reviewed the existing zoning on the property, which was completed approximately
10 years ago, and added that his company is attempting to improve the zoning and the
preservation of the tree area. The request reduced the local retail from 21 to 8 acres, and
the multi -family from 21 to 15 acres. The 18 -acre community facilities property north of the
creek is proposed to be moved to an 18 -acre forest area. The proposal provides an addition-
al opportunity to cross -zone 24 75 acres in Tracts 10A, 813, 5A, and 3A for the City to
purchase.
Mr. Arterbern discussed issues relating to land uses/proposed and previous planned develop-
ment zoning; park land/open space/tree preservation; and thoroughfares/traffic planning.
The concept plan, which was provided for review only, includes streets with lots on only one
side of the open space areas to provide access to the tree acreage. He stated that they have
worked with City staff to provide a potential park plan that shows the way the dedicated and
"to be purchased" land could be used.
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Mr. Arterbern discussed the proposed tree preservation ordinance, which attempts to follow
the tree ordinance of Coppell, Grapevine, and Colleyville. It states that any tree that is
removed 6" or greater would need to be approved by the Planning staff, and if deemed to be
removed, it should be replaced by minimum 3" trees to equal 6"
Mr. Arterbern added that the owner of this property could legally develop under the existing
planned development requirements, but that they have chosen to present a better plan to the
City.
Intersection improvements at Hedgecoxe and Alma are being proposed as a part of the zoning
request. They are proposing the deletion of Bethany from Alma to McDermott because
Bethany north of McDermott has been removed from the Thoroughfare Plan. They propose
that Bethany end at Suncreek Blvd.
Mr. Greg Rich discussed items relating to infrastructure commitments, deviations from
development standards, and the use regulations for office/retail. He discussed the need to
protect the trees, and to provide access to the entire community He discussed the proposed
phasing of the infrastructure improvements and the proposed City's participation in the
bridge costs. They are requesting deviations such as sidewalks to be placed within an
easement in the front yard to allow 10-11 feet from the curb. He added that they are
proposing to construct the hike and bike trails at 8 feet. They are working with City staff to
avoid any duplication of amenities. Other requested deviations refer to side yards; 5 feet
rather than 6 feet, and 10% or 6 feet, whichever is lesser; building height of 35 feet or 21h
stories.
Mr. Tom Keener added that the proponent has been creative, and the submission indicates
that a great deal of effort has been given to tree preservation. He added that the traffic study
was very complete. The property south of Rowlett Creek is in the Plano ISD, north of the
creek is in the Allen ISD He added that the change in Plano's thoroughfare plan to end
Hedgecoxe at Alma Drive (just east of Alma Drive) removes the need for the large shopping
center tract at that intersection. The City's traffic consultant has reviewed the impact on the
elimination of Bethany; he concurs with the proponent that it is not necessary; however,
intersections along McDermott will need to be considered carefully.
Mr. Keener added that Ms. Rhoda Savage, Director of Parks, had provided information to
the Commission regarding the Park Board's consideration of the change in the location of the
park dedication. They were in agreement with this change.
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Chairman Garcia opened the public heating.
The following persons spoke during
the public hearing:
Bob Krzyzanowski
He stated he is a member of the Collin County Open
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Space Commission, and spoke in general regarding the
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request. He was in favor of preserving the bottomland
and forest. He added that they would work with the City
and the developers to find the funds to preserve the
additional 20 acres of bottomland.
Melissa Bottorf, Editor
Questioned whether replanted trees would be guaranteed
Organic Digest
to live, and for how long. She suggested 4 years would
800 Roaming Rd.
be an appropriate guarantee. Will irrigation be provid-
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ed? Is the developer going to be careful about dozing
and tracking around the existing large trees?
Susan Redmond, represent-
Stated that the 80 -acre forest should be preserved in its
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entirety She expressed concern regarding the upcoming
League (AEAL)
agenda item regarding the tree preservation ordinance.
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Kevin Pierce
Stated he agrees with the plan and appreciates the saving
604 Sandy Creek
of the trees. He would like to see a set price for the
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additional park acreage, and the completion of the
bridge. He would request extended right-hand lanes for
commuters.
Manuel J. Pena
Expressed concern regarding oak and pecan trees that
519 Pine Trail
have recently been cut down in Allen on West
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McDermott. He stated that large trees are not truly
replaced with a number of smaller trees.
Peggy Helmick -Richardson
Agrees with the AEAL and encouraged either the pur-
807 Grassy Glen
chase of the land (with longer than 1 year, maybe 5
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years), or dedication of additional tree land because of
allowance for excess density
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Frances Williams
Montgomery Farm
Founder of Connemara, requested realignment of Alma
Drive to eliminate the need for the expensive bridge.
Route 1 Bethany Road
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Tommy Litteral
Stated he agrees with Mrs. Williams. He discussed the
530 Windsor Drive
rapid growth and demise of the fish in the creeks. He
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was concerned about the draining of tate ponds.
Mary McDermott Cook
Expressed concern regarding the increased density shown
adjacent property owner
in the handout this evening. She questioned the price at
which the land would be offered to the City
Eileen Tollett
Expressed a feeling that the proposal appears much better
404 Watson Dr.
than has been seen previously. She requested that the
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City be sensitive to the creeks. She requested that the
timeframe be longer for the purchase of the forest area,
and that the price be set.
Chairman Gracia recessed the public bearing to the next regularly scheduled meeting on July
14, 1994.
Commissioner Kelley questioned District 10. Mr. Rich apologized regarding the late
distribution of page 21; however, the land use plan had shown Tract 10 at 4.6 units per acre.
The map has not changed. He added that their concept plan actually indicates less density
than the proposal. The concept plan is, however, not a part of the request, but for exhibit
purposes only
The Commission suggested that their might be some mathematical errors in staff's zoning
analysis, and requested staff to review this analysis.
Ms. Savage added that the Park Board had indicated approval of the change in the location of
the 18 -acre park site.
Mr. George Conner commented that the hike and bike trails are required to be 8 feet in
width.
Chairman Garcia suggested that a workshop be set to consider the request. He suggested
that it be set for June 29, along with the tree preservation ordinance workshop.
Commissioner Biggs requested that the proponent consider the concerns of the citizens
r. Commissioner Gallagher questioned the number of acres in the floodplain and Mr. Rich
Estated that the flood study was received this morning and will be presented to the City
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Commissioner Fulk questioned the traffic engineering study with regard to the area south of
Hedgecoxe in Plano. Mr. Edwin Haas, Barton Ashman, stated the study was completed
based on a 2010 buildout scenario. He added that this intersection will need to be coordinat-
ed with the City of Plano since 3 corners are in Plano.
Commissioner Fulk questioned the construction of Alma with regard to the drainage swell on
the east side, and Mr. Rich stated that this drainage swell will be replaced with drain pipe.
Commissioner Gallagher questioned the need for the bond election funding to purchase the
land. He stated that the issue includes funds for the purchase of two major parks, and asked
whether these parks were specifically designated. Ms. Savage stated that the two parks were
not specifically identified.
Mr Rich added that an additional 14 acres of wooded land is being dedicated to the City of
Plano.
MOTION: A motion was made by Commissioner Gallagher to table the item
There was no second to the motion, and the motion died.
Mr. Tary Arterbern requested permission to respond to the citizen comments, and did so as
follows:
1.
Tree Preservation policy- they agreed to conform to any future tree preservation
ordinance enacted by the City, and it would supersede this zoning submission.
2.
Irrigation and guarantees: homebuilders usually irrigate and landscape.
3
Compaction: efforts will be made to preserve the drip lines of the trees for the
developer and the builder. He encouraged the City to require this to be watched by
building inspection, even after the developer is gone.
4
Preservation of the forest: 75 of the 80 acres is planned for preservation. Over 90
acres would be preserved with the floodplain and City purchase of the additional land.
5
Price: the price for the land would be based on fair market value. The developer
would be willing to dedicate additional land for increased participation in the bridge
infrastructure. ISTEA funds might be available, etc.
6.
Timing and Completion of the Bridge: this is a major incentive to bring the case
forward, and allow phasing of the infrastructure. They are considering to be a
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tradeoff for extending the trees. The minimum bridge section to be built will be 3
lanes.
7 Timeframe for Purchase: the length of time for the City's option to purchase could be
lengthened.
8. Rerouting of Alma: a valid environmental planning concept, but too late in the
development process. He suggested that the City and the developer work together to
make a nice pedestrian access under the bridge such as Turtlecreek.
9. Density: again he apologized for the mathematical error; however, it remains the
same as on the land use plan.
10. Dozing: He offered to discuss the drip line issue.
11. Price: Mr Rich stated that they have discussed with Mr. McCarty methodologies for
setting the price for the property He added that the price would probably be set by a
third party hired by the developer and the City He stated he did not know the value
today, but had an idea it could be a range from $20,000 to $40,000 per acre.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Commissioner Gallagher and a second by Commissioner
Fulk, the Commission voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to table the request until
the regularly scheduled meeting on July 14, 1994
OTHER BUSINESS
Chairman Garcia advised the audience that a workshop is set for next Wednesday for
discussion of the tree preservation ordinance.
Chairman Garcia suggested setting next Wednesday also as a workshop on the Suncreek
proposal and the Commission agreed to add this item to that agenda.
Mr. Keener stated that he had received a request from someone wanting to make a slide
presentation regarding tree preservation. Chairman Garcia asked staff to review the
presentation and, if appropriate, allow them 'h hour next Wednesday after Mr. Sawyer's
presentation.
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MOTION: Upon a motion by Commissioner Gallagher and a second by Commissioner
Biggs, the Commission voted 5 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to adjourn the June 23,
1994, meeting at, /9:30 p.m.
These minutes approved this qday of , 1994.
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