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ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
NAY 10, 1988
ATTENDANCE:
Board Members Present:
George Chrisman, Chairman
Harold Biggs
Bruce Kleinschmidt
Randall Leverett
Board Members Absent:
Sheila Curtis
City Staff Present:
Joseph Del Ferro, Environmental Health Inspector
Sally Leeper, Secretary
CALL TO ORDER:
The Allen Sign Control Board was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by
Chairman Chrisman, at the Allen Municipal Annex, City Council
Chambers, One Butler Circle, Allen, Texas.
Approve Minutes
April 12, 1988 (Agenda Item II)
Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol-
lows:
"Approve minutes of April 12, 1988, regular meeting."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by
Board Member Leverett, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0
OPPOSED to approve the minutes of April 12, 1988, as
submitted.
Tabled Item
Daum Advertising Co. (Agenda Item III)
Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol-
lows:
"Tabled Item - Consider request from Daum Advertising
Company for a variance to the City of Allen Sign Regulations
Ordinance to allow a two-sided Class 6 Freeway Sign, each
side being 288 square feet in size, with no relationship to
the other."
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Tabled Item
Daum Advertising (Cont.) (Agenda Item III)
Chairman Chrisman stated that because the issue of determining
size of a Class 6 Freeway sign is part of the review process that
the Board is undertaking at this time regarding the Sign Regula-
tions Ordinance, he would recommend that this item be removed
from the table for action.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by
Board Member Biggs, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED
to remove Agenda Item III from the table.
The Board discussed the fact that the issue in this variance
request is for a two-sided freeway sign, each side being 288
square feet. This is an option being considered in the review
process for the Sign Regulations Ordinance, and it was the
consensus of the Board that the issue should be resolved by
amendment to the ordinance if the desire is in fact to allow two-
sided freeway signs, each 288 square feet.
Board Member Kleinschmidt questioned whether Mr. Daum had ob-
tained a State permit for the proposed sign and was advised that
the permit had not yet been received.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by
Board Member Leverett the Board voted 4 FOR and 0
OPPOSED to deny the variance request by Daum Advertis-
ing Co.
Consider Renewal
Marymark Homes (Agenda Item IV)
Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol-
lows:
"Consider second renewal for Class 4 sign for Marymark Homes
located at 800 Fall Drive."
Mr. Del Ferro advised that the sign is in good repair.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by
Board Member Leverett, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0
OPPOSED to approve the renewal for the Class 4 sign at
800 Fall Drive.
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Consider Renewal
Nova Development (Agenda Item V)
Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol-
lows:
"Consider third renewal for Class 4 sign for Nova Develop-
ment located at 400 W. Bethany."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by
Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0
OPPOSED to approve renewal of the Nova Development
sign located at 400 W. Bethany.
Consider Renewal
Nova Development (Agenda Item VI)
Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol-
lows:
"Consider third renewal for Class 4 sign for Nova Develop-
ment located north of Bethany Drive and east of U.S. 75."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by
Board Member Biggs, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED
to approve renewal of the sign for Nova Development
located north of Bethany Drive and east of U.S. 75.
Consider Renewal
Concourse Development (Agenda Item VII)
Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol-
lows:
"Consider fifth renewal of Class 4 sign for Concourse
Development located at the intersection of U.S. 75 and S.H.
121."
The Board discussed the fact that this sign is still necessary
because of the economic situation at this time.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by
Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0
OPPOSED to approve renewal for Concourse Development.
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Review of Class 4 Signs
Issued during April, 1988
(Agenda
Item VIII)
Mr. Del Ferro advised the
Board that only one
Class 4
temporary
sign permit had been issued during the past
month.
It was for
Allentown Office Park, to
be located at the
northwest
corner of
Allentown Parkway and S.H.
5.
Annual Review
Sign Regulations Ordinance (Agenda Item IX)
Chairman Chrisman suggested that it would be appropriate to move
forward with the annual review of the Sign Ordinance and send the
recommendations to City Council during the month of June. He
proposed one or two workshops during May to accomplish this task.
Chairman Chrisman listed the following items that have been or
might be considered for review:
1. The addition of the requirement to submit advertising copy
at the time of application in Section 7, paragraph 3, page
33.
2. The necessity of a concise definition of "gross surface area
of sign" as it applies to freeway billboards.
3. The need for clarification in the section regarding jump
clocks, Section 5, paragraph 4, page 29.
4. The need to review weekend real estate signs with regard to
residential property, Section 3, paragraph 11 and 12, pages
5 and 6.
The Board held discussion regarding the weekend real estate signs
and it was reviewed that this section was amended in August,
1986, as to the hours and location of display. There was discus-
sion of Plano's proposed amendment to their regulations concern-
ing this type of sign. The letter received from Mr. Dismukes
regarding these signs on his property was discussed and it was
the consensus that the request from Mr. Dismukes was valid. The
following suggestions were made by Board members:
1. Weekend real estate signs would not be allowed on residen-
tial property abutting and/or including thoroughfare right-
of-way without consent of the property owner.
2. Weekend real estate signs would not be allowed on residen-
tial property abutting and/or including throughfare right-
of-way that is being maintained by the resident without
consent of the property owner.
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Mr. Del Ferro stated that it was his opinion that enforcement of
the above would be difficult and that the problem would be better
addressed between the homeowner and the owner of the signs.
The Board next held discussion regarding the section of the
ordinance referencing "jump clocks" on page 29, paragraph 4. It
was suggested that signs showing time and temperature only should
be allowed. The following wordings were suggested:
1. Change the last sentence of paragraph 4, page 29, to show
that only time and/or temperature data may be allowed by
special permit of the City Council.
2. Change the last sentence of paragraph 4, page 29, to show
that only time and/or temperature data may be allowed by
special permit of the Sign Control Board.
Further discussion was held regarding marquees signs in parking
lots, at schools, banks, etc.
The Board next held discussion regarding the definition of "Gross
Surface Area of Sign." Mr. Jerry Daum, Daum Advertising, had
submitted to city staff a suggestion for this wording. It is as
follows:
Class 6 off -premise freeway signs adjacent to U.S. 75 and
all future thoroughfares, more fully described under Sect.
3, par. F, and which are wholly within 100 feet of the
expressway right-of-way and is oriented to be visible from
that expressway, then the following exception applies:
1. The Gross Surface Area of the sign more fully described
in Sect. 2, "Definitions" of Ord. 374-10-81, will allow
two (2) sign facings not to exceed 288 sq. ft. per sign
face so long as the sum total square footage for all
portions of the sign does not exceed 576 sq. ft.
2. Gross Surface Areas of the sign do not include:
a. The sign skirting
b. Any temporary extension or embellishment
A revision by city staff of this suggestion is as follows:
SECTION 2. DEFINITIONS
Gross Surface Area of Sign - Exception:
Gross Surface Area of Class 6 off -premise freeway signs as
described in Section 3, Paragraph F (Class 6 Freeway
Signs) which are oriented to be visible from that expressway
shall allow two (2) sign facings not to exceed 288 square
It was the consensus of the Board that "temporary extension or
imbellishment" should be removed from the definition.
The Board discussed the State regulations as to measurement of
signs.
It was discussed that each time the copy changes on a sign, it
becomes a new sign and needs a new permit.
Suggestions for possible wording of "gross surface area of sign"
are:
1. ...using the proposal by staff ... to allow a certain perc-
entage of the sign to be allowed for cut outs.
2. ..using the proposal by staff ... change item 2 to read
"gross surface area of the sign does not include the base or
apron, supports, or other structural members."
Next, the Board discussed the permit and renewal process for
billboards.
It was suggested that a change be proposed to require that the
permit for a Class 6 Freeway sign expire annually and a request
must be received in writing for renewal. The fee for permit or
renewal would be $100. The permit number from the City and the
State should appear on the face of the sign.
The initial permit fee should be recommended at $100. The
question arose as to whether the fee would be for each sign face,
or for both sides to be considered as one sign. In reviewing the
State regulations it appeared that their fee was based on each
face of the sign, and it was the consensus of the Board that it
would be appropriate for the city fee structure to follow that of
the state.
The next item for discussion was the fact that Section 3, Item 2,
page 14 should be amended to read "each sign facing may not
exceed an area of 288 square feet, and the sum total square
footage cannot exceed 576 square feet."
The addition of Item 4 was suggested as follows: These permits
expire annually, and must be renewed in writing. Both state and
I city permit numbers must be displayed on the sign facing.
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feet per sign face, so long as
the sum
total square footage
for all portions of the sign
does not
exceed 576 square
feet. The gross surface area
does not
include a) the sign
skirting, or b) any temporary extension
or embellishment.
It was the consensus of the Board that "temporary extension or
imbellishment" should be removed from the definition.
The Board discussed the State regulations as to measurement of
signs.
It was discussed that each time the copy changes on a sign, it
becomes a new sign and needs a new permit.
Suggestions for possible wording of "gross surface area of sign"
are:
1. ...using the proposal by staff ... to allow a certain perc-
entage of the sign to be allowed for cut outs.
2. ..using the proposal by staff ... change item 2 to read
"gross surface area of the sign does not include the base or
apron, supports, or other structural members."
Next, the Board discussed the permit and renewal process for
billboards.
It was suggested that a change be proposed to require that the
permit for a Class 6 Freeway sign expire annually and a request
must be received in writing for renewal. The fee for permit or
renewal would be $100. The permit number from the City and the
State should appear on the face of the sign.
The initial permit fee should be recommended at $100. The
question arose as to whether the fee would be for each sign face,
or for both sides to be considered as one sign. In reviewing the
State regulations it appeared that their fee was based on each
face of the sign, and it was the consensus of the Board that it
would be appropriate for the city fee structure to follow that of
the state.
The next item for discussion was the fact that Section 3, Item 2,
page 14 should be amended to read "each sign facing may not
exceed an area of 288 square feet, and the sum total square
footage cannot exceed 576 square feet."
The addition of Item 4 was suggested as follows: These permits
expire annually, and must be renewed in writing. Both state and
I city permit numbers must be displayed on the sign facing.
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Section 7, Sign Permits, Fees, should be changed as follows:
Paragraph a: remove Class 6.
Paragraph c: Fees for permit to erect, alter, replace, or
relocate any Class 6 sign shall be as follows:
Illuminated: $150 per face
Nonilluminated: $100 per face
Section 7, page 33, should be changed as follows:
Paragraph h: Add an item stating that the advertising copy must
accompany the application.
Paragraph is Add an item stating that state permit for freeway
signs must accompany the application; as well as other appropri-
ate approvals; i.e. Texas Electric/Utilities.
Paragraph j: This would be the current paragraph h.
The Board discussed a further meeting to complete the review and
it was the consensus of the Board to hold a workshop session at
7:30 May 17, 1988. Staff was requested to prepare samples of the
amendment proposals for review at this workshop meeting.
Adjourn:
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by
Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0
OPPOSED to adjourn the regular meeting of the Allen
Sign Control Board at 9:25 p.m.
These minutes approved this / 7 day of
1988.
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George hrisman, Chairman
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Bruce Kleinschmidt, Secretary