Min - Planning and Zoning Commission - 1982 - 12/07 - WorkshopALLEN CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING S ZONING COMMISSION
Called - Special Workshop Session
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December 7, 1982
Present:
City Council
Mickey Pierson, Mayor (arrived at 8:45 p.m.)
Joe Farmer, Mayor Pro Tem
Jim McClure
Don Rodenbaugh
Ward Paxton
Dennis Offutt
Absent:
H. R. Daugherty
Planning S Zoning Commission
Jim Wolfe, Vice Chairman
Jack Decatur
Winston Stallings
Gary Koch, Secretary
Bobby Glass
Absent:
Jim Pendleton, Chairman
Larry Larsen
City Staff:
Jon McCarty, City Manager (left at 8:10 p.m., arrived back at 9:20 p.m.
Marty Hendrix, City. Secretary
Bill Petty, Director of Community Development
The Called - Special Workshop Session of the Allen City
Council and the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order
by Mayor Pro Tem Joe Farmer at 7:40 p.m. on Monday, December 7, 1982,
at Boyd Elementary School, 900 Jupiter Road.
Mayor Pro Tem Farmer advised of the agenda for this workshop
session and that Agenda Item II -B (Comprehensive Plan outline) should
be eliminated from discussion at this time due to the fact that the
subcommittee has not be able to meet to discuss and formulate the
input received at the last workshop session held on November 29, 1982.
It was the consensus of both bodies that Agenda Item II -B be
dropped from the agenda for this workshop session.
The opening discussion centered around the development criteria
initiated by the City Council through several workshop sessions held
earlier this year, and whether this development criteria actually
represented a policy statement of the City Council, was this criteria
separate and apart from the work being done by the subcommittee,
'yam and what was the purpose of this workshop session and what was to
be discussed.
After considerable discussion, it was clarified that the primary
purpose of this workshop session was to receive the comments and
recommendations of the Planning and Zoning Commission regarding the
development criteria.
Jim Wolfe, Vice Chairman of the Planning and Zoning Commission,
advised that he would present the Commission's recommendations in
the absence of the Chairman, but had several questions to clarify
with the City Council before the presentation.
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Mr. Wolfe asked questions regarding the percentages pertaining
to residential development, the timeframe represented in those
percentages, how the percentages were to be used when a developer
presents a planned development, and the intended use of the deve-
lopment criteria by the Planning and Zoning Commission and the
City Council.
There was considerable discussion by the Council and Mr. Wolfe
on the above areas.
Mr. Wolfe passed out copies of the November 11, 1982 minutes
of the Planning and Zoning Commission's regular meeting and advised
of the recommendations and comments contained in those minutes
regarding the development criteria initiated by the City Council.
The City Council and the Planning and Zoning Commission
discussed in detail the proposed housing sizes and the zoning
districts as recommended by each body, as follows:
P & Z
City Council Commission
Housing Size Recommended Recommended
Greater than 2000 sq. ft. 88 108
Between 1,800 sq, ft. and 2,000 sq. ft. 338 208
Between 1,600 sq, ft. and 1,800 sq. ft. 248 158
Between 1,400 sq. ft. and 1,600 sq. ft. 158
Between 1,200 sq. ft. and 1,400 sq. ft. 208 258
Less than 1,200 sq. ft. (including 158 158
apartments, townhouses, etc.)
Mr. Wolfe then advised that the Planning and Zoning Commission,
by consensus, had felt there was no need for ranch estates zoning
in the city because of a concern that design standards may be com-
promised.
There was considerable discussion on the positive and negative
aspects of ranch estates development in the city.
Mayor Pro Tem Farmer recessed the called - special workshop
session at 9:11 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 9:21 p.m.
The discussion continued on ranch estates development and
Vice Chairman Wolfe pointed out that ranch estates could be developed
under the existing Zoning Ordinance.
The Council and the Planning & Zoning Commission discussed the
criteria for ranch estates development being at least a one acre
lot or more, whether or not septic tanks would be permitted, the
j roadway development in this type of development, and other needs.
{ A straw poll was taken for all members in favor of a separate
ranch estates zoning district, with seven (7) voting in favor of,
being Mayor Pro Tem Farmer, Councilman Paxton, Councilman Of£utt,
Councilman McClure, Mayor Pierson, Commissioner Wolfe, and Com-
missioner Stallings, and four (4) opposed, being Councilman Rodenbaugh,
Commissioner Koch, Commissioner Glass, and Commissioner Decatur.
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rl_ Based on the poll, a subcommittee was appointed to develop
criteria for a ranch estates zoning district within the city, with the
Chairman being Councilman Paxton and members being Mayor Pierson,
Commissioner Gary Koch and Commissioner Winston Stallings.
Further discussion centered around the need to include additional
items in the development criteria.
Another subcommittee was appointed, with Commissioner Jim Wolfe
as Chairman and members being Councilman Jim McClure and Commissioner
Jack Decatur. The purpose of this subcommittee was to develop an
outline for defining development policies that would implement the
goals and objectives of the city in regard to future development.
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The called - special workshop session was adjourned at
10:12 p.m.
These minutes approved on the 13th day of January
1983 by the Planning and Zoning Commission.
Jim Wolfe, ViVE CHAIRMAN Gary Koch, SECRET RY
These minutes approved on the 20th day of January I
1983 by the Allen City Council.
Marty HendrixA CITY SECRETARY
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M. Pierson, MAYOR
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