Min - Planning and Zoning Commission - 1985 - 09/04 - WorkshopALLEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
WORKSHOP MEETING
SEPTEMBER 4, 1985
Present:
Commissioners:
Bobby Glass, Chairman
Jerry Wilson, Vice Chairman
Wayne Armand, Secretary
Jack Pennington
John Garcia
Eileen Karlsruher
Ken Browning
Staff:
Bill Petty, Director of Community Development
Tom Keener, Development Coordinator
Jon McCarty, City Manager
Mark Thornton, Director of Parks & Recreation
Ron Gentry, Fire Chief
Richard Carroll, Police Chief
Nadine Hopps, Secretary
The workshop meeting of the Allen Planning & Zoning Commission
called to order by Chairman Bobby Glass at 7:34 P.M. at the
Allen Municipal Annex, One Butler Circle, Allen, Texas.
Workshop
Barnes Development (Agenda Item II)
Mr. Jeff Barnes of Barnes Development reviewed the last
workshop of Wednesday, August 14, 1985, and answered some
of the concerns expressed at the last workshop by the
Commission. He spoke in reference to private streets,
alignment of Bethany Road, traffic, population study, and
the park and community facilities area.
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Barnes Development (Continued) (Agenda Item II)
Mr. McCarty advised Mr. Barnes that staff had concerns in
the following areas:
1. Traffic Control
a. Enforcement
b. Signage
C. Control
2. Access points limited to only 2
a. Response Time
b. Convenience
c. Legal Aspect of Access
Fire Chief Ron Gentry stated that due to the structure and
street design in this development their response time would
not be sufficient. He was concerned about the financial
responsibility of repairing the fire trucks and "crash -through"
gates if the fire department had to enter. Additionally, he
did not want to have to rely on a security officer for entrance
during an emergency.
Police Chief Richard Carroll commented that he would have no
jurisdiction in a private development. They cannot enforce
any traffic laws there because there are virtually none. They
can only enforce the law in situations where "Breach of the
Peace" occurred. Chief Carroll contacted other private develop-
ments to see how law enforcement was handled. Seis Lagos, east
of Allen, has had a lot of problems with enforcement.
The private streets would have to be maintained and the upkeep
of the development would be done by the Property Owners
Association. The Property Owners Association would commonly
own the development. Therefore, they would be responsible for
activities within the development.
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Barnes Development (Continued) (Agenda Item II)
Mr. Bland Pittman, Planner, said that they wanted to work
with the Police, Fire, and any public services of the City
in regard to this development. They wanted to deed restrict
this area so that the Police, Fire, and other regulatory
standards would be applicable to this development.
Mr. Mark Thornton explained his concerns about this development.
He said that this area is zoned to be dedicated to the City
for a community facility. This area is also in the 100 -year
flood plain and they are doing a green belt study at this
time at a cost of $10,000 to find the best use for this area.
Mr. Thornton said that he would gather input from the Parks
Board and would give the Planning & Zoning an update at their
next regular meeting.
Some of the other issues addressed by Mr. Jeff Barnes, Mr.
Art Barnes, and Mr. Bland Pittman were:
The Aligning of Bethany Road - They proposed to move the
road over approximately 1,000 feet to the east. This
new location of the road would better serve their develop-
ment and the other adjoining property owners. Mr. Pittman
said Mrs. McDermott expressed that she did not want to
have the trees moved from their natural setting, and
he claimed that realigning the road would save these trees.
Traffic Study and a Population Study is being done by
Jack Hatchell of Barton -Ashman and Associates. It will
be ready soon and they will present it at a later date.
Private Streets - They would be maintained and have to
be approved by the engineering department of the City just
like all of the public streets in the City.
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Barnes Development (Continued) (Agenda Item II)
Chairman Bobby Glass stressed that the Commission did not
want to consider zoning outside of the public hearing at
this time. Any zoning will be addressed at the public
hearing and not before.
at 15:15 p.m.
Commission recessed/this workshop until Wednesday, September
18, 1985 at 7:30 P.M. in the open space office area of Allen
Municipal Annex.
These minutes approved this am day of 1985.
1985.
Bob y Glass, hairman Way e Armand, Secretary