Min - Planning and Zoning Commission - 1989 - 05/11 - RegularALLEN PLANNING & ZONING CONMESSION
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 11, 1989
ATTENDANCE:
Commission Members Present:
Wayne Armand, Chairman
Eileen Karlsruher, Vice -Chairman
Melissa Owen
Harold Biggs
Kenneth Fulls
John Garcia
Commission Members Absent:
Charles Lee, Secretary
City Staff Present:
Tom Keener, Development Coordinator
Sally Leeper, Secretary
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CALL TO ORDER:
The Allen Planning & Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by
Chairman Armand at the Allen Municipal Annex, City Council Chambers, One
Butler Circle, Allen, Texas.
Approve Minutes
April 13, 1989 (Agenda Item II)
Chairman Armand read the agenda item into the record as follows:
"Approve minutes of April 13, 1989, regular meeting."
Chairman Armand noted that all of the motions indicate a vote of 5 for and 0
opposed, when in fact they should state 7 for and 0 opposed.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Commissioner Biggs and a second by Commissioner
Fulk, the Commission voted 6 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the
minutes April 13, 1989, as corrected.
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Public Hearing
Car Wash Systems of Texas (Agenda Item III)
Chairman Armand read the agenda item into the record as follows:
"Public Hearing - Consider a request for Specific Use Permit with site plan
approval for an auto laundry facility by Mr. Jim Duke, represented by Mr.
W. E. Apperson of Car Wash Systems of Texas, to be located in Block J,
portions of Lots 3, 4, 5, 6, Old Donation Addition, City of Allen, Collin
County, Texas, further described as being located on F.M. 2170 east of
Cedar and west of Dogwood."
Mr. Tom Keener presented the request to the Commission. The property is located
in a portion of the Dorothy Stacy Wood property, currently owned by First Baptist
Church, McKinney, adjacent to the existing Dairy Queen.
He stated that one of the curb cuts has been closed and the remaining one has
been widened from 30 feet to 36 feet. He advised the Commission that the proposal
conforms with the City's policy of requiring three stacking spaces for each lane
in a car wash of this type.
Staff recommended that if the desire of the Commission is to approve the site plan,
it be done with the stipulation that a fire hydrant be installed prior to the
issuance of a building permit, and the landscaping be irrigated.
Mr. Keener added that the parking satisfies the requirements of the ordinance.
Chairman Armand opened the public hearing.
Mr. William E. Apperson, 5908 Waterview Drive, Arlington, Texas, spoke before
the Commission. He stated he represented Mr. Jim Duke, formerly from Magnolia,
Arkansas. Mr. Apperson stated that he was the president of Car Wash Systems
of Texas. He provided the Commission with a booklet detailing the plans for the
car wash. He advised that none of the new landscaping recently completed by the
City will be disturbed. He agreed to install a fire hydrant and landscaping as
requested, and advised that the car wash would be placed 60 feet back from the
front property line to allow for the stacking lanes. He stated that the proposed
car wash would be a modern facility which Allen does not currently have.
Mr. Apperson added that the original proposal included two curb cuts; however,
they have revised their proposal to show the one curb cut that staff had
requested. He personally would prefer the two drive cuts, but would agree to
whatever pattern the Commission desires.
Chairman Armand stated that the curb cut request is a result of recommendations
from the Council of Governments.
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Public Hearing
Car Wash Systems of Texas (Cont.) (Agenda Item III)
Commissioner Owen questioned whether there would be room for a second dumpster
if it became necessary and Mr. Apperson said "yes," and advised that the area will
be screened.
Commissioner Fulk questioned whether there was general security lighting for the
entire site, and Mr. Apperson stated "yes."
Mr. Jim Duke, 901 Olive Street, Magnolia, Arkansas, proponent in this request,
introduced himself to the Commission.
With no one else wishing to speak for or against the request, Chairman Armand
closed the public hearing.
Chairman Armand questioned the fact that the stacking lanes for bay number 6
were extremely close the entrance to the facility. It was confirmed after
discussion that the stacking lanes are not a requirement by the City, but that
staff had requested three. Chairman Armand stated that this might cause a
problem for emergency vehicles.
Commissioner Garcia suggested that the landscaping, being located in the rear of
the facility, would not be visible. He also questioned the requirement for 11
parking spaces. Mr. Keener stated that there is not a specific requirement for
parking spaces for an auto laundry. Commissioner Garcia suggested that having
parking spaces marked would encourage loitering.
Mr. Keener stated that Mr. Dobbs of Car Wash Systems of Texas had addressed
the issue of blocking F.M. 2170 with the stacking lanes by stating that people do
not normally wait at a self -serve auto wash if there is a line, and he did not
expect to ever see all 3 stacking spaces full for every bay.
Commissioner Garcia suggested that an area might be marked off to restrict
parking for a certain distance. Proponent proposed that the Commission require
that a "No Parking" line be placed behind the two stacking spaces.
It was confirmed that the fire marshal has approved the plan with the addition of
a fire hydrant located near F.M. 2170.
Mr. Duke stated that there will be an attendant at the car wash much of the time.
In addition, he will be monitoring the property.
The Commission requested additional landscaping toward the front of the property,
and Mr. Apperson suggested they could, in addition, add an irrigated landscaping
strip along the western edge of the property (18 - 24" wide) from F.M. 2170 to the
rear edge of the property.
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Public Hearing
Car Wash Systems of Texas (Cont.) (Agenda Item III)
Commissioner Garcia stated he did not have a problem with the use in this area.
The Commission agreed.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Commissioner Biggs and a second by Commissioner
Fulk, the Commission voted 6 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to recommend
approval of the Specific Use Permit and site plan with the addition of
landscaping (18" - 24" wide) for the entire west side of the property,
that all landscaping would be irrigated, and the stacking lanes would
be limited to 2 spaces for each bay with a provision for appropriate
markings for better ingresslegress, a "No Parking" line would be
placed 40 feet from the building, and a fire hydrant would be added
near Main Street per the Fire Marshal's request.
FINDINGS:
1. The use is appropriate for this area.
2. The Fire Marshal reviewed the site plan and has given approval.
3. Ingresslegress is proper.
4. Parking is adequate.
5. Landscaping is adequate.
Mr. Duke asked whether the Commission desired the stacking lanes to be striped.
It was suggested that drawing the lines might be unnecessary and even difficult
to maneuver because of the curved entry. The consensus of the Commission was
to allow staff to interpret this requirement.
Other Business:
Chairman Armand noted that three of the Commissioners are due to reappointment
and encouraged them to complete their data sheets.
Mr. Keener advised that the agenda would include a request for site plan approval
by the First Presbyterian Church of Allen.
Mr. Keener discussed the training offered by COG with the Commissioners and
confirmed which ones had attended.
Chairman Armand shared some of the results of the survey recently completed by
the Economic Alliance Committee.
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Adjourn:
MOTION: Upon a motion by Commissioner Garcia and a second by Commissioner
Owen, the Commission voted 6 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to adjourn the May
11, 1989, meeting of the Allen Planning & Zoning Commission at 8:45
p.m.
These minutes approved this day of 1989.
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Charles L. Lee, Secretary