Min - Board of Adjustment - 1987 - 01/13 - RegularALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 13, 1987
ATTENDANCE•
Members Present:
Harold Biggs, Vice -Chairman
John Karlsruher
George Chrisman, Secretary
John Cahill
Board Members Absent:
Rick Alexander, Chairman
City Staff Present:
Bill Petty, Director of Community Development
Sally beeper, Secretary
Mel Hilkemeier, Code Inspector
Joe Del Ferro, Environmental Health Inspector
Arne Johnson, Assistant Building Official
CALL TO ORDER:
The January 13, 1987, meeting of the Allen Sign Control Board
was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Vice -Chairman Biggs in the
City Council Chambers, Allen Municipal Annex, One Butler Circle,
Allen, Texas 75002.
Approve Minutes
December 9, 1986
(Agenda Item II)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as
follows:
"Approve minutes of December 9, 1986, Regular meeting."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Karlsruher and a
second by Board Member Cahill, the Board voted
9 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the minutes
of December 9, 1986, as presented. The motion
carried.
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Public Hearing
Plano Outdoor Advertising (Agenda Item III)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as
follows:
"Public Hearing - Consider a variance request by Plano
Outdoor Advertising for a Class 5 major freestanding
sign for Allen Lumber and Hardware to be located off
premises north of Main Street and west of the railroad
tracks."
Mr. Paul Limmel of Plano Outdoor Advertising, 17618 Davenport,
Suite 6, Dallas, Texas, stated he was requesting a variance
for their 4 x 8 off -premise sign for Allen Lumber and Hardware
on the basis of lack of visibility for the hardware store.
He stated the sign was set back from the property line and was
not a traffic hazard. It is a directional sign only. He
stated his company was not aware that a change in copy on
the sign constituted "alteration" as referred to in the Allen
Sign Control Ordinance. He displayed photographs of this sign.
Vice -Chairman Biggs opened the public hearing.
With no one wishing to speak for or against this sign request,
the public hearing was closed.
Mr. Mel Hilkemeier advised the Board that the sign was in place
when the Sign Ordinance went into effect.
Board Member Cahill advised that he had once desired to make
use of this structure himself; however, upon review of the
Ordinance, he realized this was not allowed.
It was established that the sign originally advertised the
Allen National Bank.
Mr. Limmel stated the lease with the railroad was indefinite.
The lease with Allen Lumber Yard is for one year.
Mr. Hilkemeier stated this would be a Class 5 sign. Mr. Bill
Petty added that Class 5 signs are allowed "on-site" only by
ordinance. This request is for a variance for the nonconforming
sign to be continued in use.
Board Member Cahill stated he feels the variance could be granted
for one year, conditional to be renewed at that time.
The Board discussed the options open in considering this
variance. The granting of this variance would be to the
wording of the Ordinance itself, which does not allow for
off-site Class 5 signs.
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® Board Member Chrisman stated he was not comfortable with setting
a precedent of changing the requirements of the ordinance. He
feels this variance should be addressed as the ordinance is written.
Mr. Petty stated that staff would suggest that a permanent
disposition of the request be made.
Board Member Karlsruher questioned whether a change to the
ordinance regarding Class 5 off-site signs is needed.
Mr. Limmel reiterated the request was being made on the basis
of hardship and lack of visibility.
It was noted that although the lumber yard did have a problem
of visibility from Main Street, there were many businesses in
the downtown area that were not located on Main Street.
The Board discussed the similarities between this request and
the variances that were granted during the construction of
Main Street.
Board Member Karlsruher suggested that if there is a need for
off-site signs, then the ordinance itself should be addressed.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Chrisman and a second
by Board Member Karlsruher, the Board voted 3 FOR
and 1 OPPOSED to deny the variance request. The motion
carried.
Renewal Class 4 Signs (2)
Murray Development (Agenda Item IV)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as
follows:
"Consider first renewal of two Class 4 signs for
Murray Development Company located at: (1) southwest
corner of Malone and Exchange facing Malone, and (2)
southwest corner of Malone and Exchange facing
Exchange."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Kalrsruher and a
second by Board Member Cahill, the Board voted
4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal of
Agenda Item IV. The motion carried.
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Renewal - Class 4 Sign
Berkshire -Dallas
(Agenda Item V)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as
follows:
"Consider first renewal of one Class 4 sign for
Berkshire -Dallas located at 800 Fairlawn."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Chrisman and a second
by Board Member Karlsruher, the Board voted 4 FOR
and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal of Agenda Item
V. The motion carried.
Renewal - Class 4 Sign
Intermandeco, Inc.
(Agenda Item VI)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as
follows:
"Consider first renewal of one Class 4 sign for
Intermandeco, Inc., located in Cottonwood Bend 7A
and 7B at the southeast corner of Bethany Drive
and Ridgemont Drive."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Karlsruher and a
second by Board Member Chrisman, the Board voted
4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal of
Agenda Item VI. The motion carried.
Renewal - Class 4 Signs (4)
Tomlin Properties
(Agenda Item VII)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as
follows:
"Consider fourth renewal of four Class 4 on-site signs
for Tomlin Properties located: (1) west of Rowlett
Creek on McDermott; (2) at the southeast corner of
McDermott and proposed Alma Drive; (3) 200' north of
Hwy. 75 and Bethany; (4) southeast corner of McDermott
and the existing Alma Drive."
Board Member Chrisman questioned the status of this property, and
Mr. Hilkemeier advised that this property is still undeveloped.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Karlsruher and a
second by Board Member Chrisman, the Board voted
4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal of
Agenda Item VII. The motion carried.
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Consider Approval
Landmark Enterprises (Agenda Item VIII)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as
follows:
"Consider approval of one Class 4 sign for Landmark
Enterprises to be located at 742 Fairlawn."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Chrisman and a
second by Board Member Karlsruher, the Board
voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the Class
4 sign for Landmark Enterprises. The motion
carried.
Consider Approval
Wyndhem Homes (Agenda Item IX)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as
follows:
"Consider approval of one Class 4 sign for Wyndhem
Homes to be located at the northwest corner of
Fountain Gate and Main Street off-site."
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Karlsruher and a
second by Board Member Cahill, the Board voted
4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the Class 4 off-site
sign for Wyndhem Homes. The motion carried.
Consider Approval
Bethany Corner Shopping Center (Agenda Item X)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as
follows:
"Consider approval of one Class 4 sign for Bethany
Corner Shopping Center to be located at the south-
east corner of Hwy. 5 and Bethany Drive."
It was established that this sign application is for a change in
leasing agent.
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Karlsruher and a
second by Board Member Cahill, the Board voted
4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the Class 4 sign
for Bethany Corner Shopping Center. The motion
carried.
Board Member Chrisman suggested that the board members consider
their individual feelings regarding the needs of advertising with
Class 5 signs in the CBD and discuss this at the next meeting.
He requested that staff make a presentation on the development
plans for the completion of McDermott. Board Member Cahill
stated he feels the ordinance regarding A -frame signs should stand
as it is. Board Member Biggs mentioned the newspaper boxes and
the bench that are located on Main Street, questioning their
right to be there.
The consensus of the Board was to bring this item back on the
next agenda.
Mr. Petty stated that the bench was an allowable use by virtue
of the Sign Ordinance. The newspaper boxes would be classified
an obstruction of public right-of-way and permission would need
to be given by City Council for these stands. The City Manager
has notified the newspaper companies to remove these stands; not
because of a violation to the Sign Ordinance, but because they
are obstructing the public right-of-way. A -frame signs are
prohibited by the Ordinance, and in addition, would be an
obstruction of the public right-of-way in the case of their
use on Main Street. If A -frame signs were allowed in the CBD,
they would also be allowed in other retail areas of town.
Adjourn:
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Karlsruher, and a second
by Board Member Cahill, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0
OPPOSED to ad]ourn the January 13, 1987, meeting of
the Allen Sign Control Board at 8:15 p.m.
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These minutes approved this / D day of gwly
1987.
Harold Biggs, Vic .,hairman ge hr' man, Secretary
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Discussion
Central Business District
(Agenda Item XI)
Vice -Chairman Biggs read the
agenda item into the
record as
follows:
"Discussion of signs in
the Central Business
District."
Board Member Chrisman suggested that the board members consider
their individual feelings regarding the needs of advertising with
Class 5 signs in the CBD and discuss this at the next meeting.
He requested that staff make a presentation on the development
plans for the completion of McDermott. Board Member Cahill
stated he feels the ordinance regarding A -frame signs should stand
as it is. Board Member Biggs mentioned the newspaper boxes and
the bench that are located on Main Street, questioning their
right to be there.
The consensus of the Board was to bring this item back on the
next agenda.
Mr. Petty stated that the bench was an allowable use by virtue
of the Sign Ordinance. The newspaper boxes would be classified
an obstruction of public right-of-way and permission would need
to be given by City Council for these stands. The City Manager
has notified the newspaper companies to remove these stands; not
because of a violation to the Sign Ordinance, but because they
are obstructing the public right-of-way. A -frame signs are
prohibited by the Ordinance, and in addition, would be an
obstruction of the public right-of-way in the case of their
use on Main Street. If A -frame signs were allowed in the CBD,
they would also be allowed in other retail areas of town.
Adjourn:
MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Karlsruher, and a second
by Board Member Cahill, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0
OPPOSED to ad]ourn the January 13, 1987, meeting of
the Allen Sign Control Board at 8:15 p.m.
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These minutes approved this / D day of gwly
1987.
Harold Biggs, Vic .,hairman ge hr' man, Secretary