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Min - Board of Adjustment - 1986 - 06/10 - Regular0 ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD JUNE 10, 1986 REGULAR MEETING ATTENDANCE• Board Members Attending: Rick Alexander, Chairman George Chrisman John Cahill Harold Biggs Board Members Absent: John Karlsruher City Staff Present: Mel Hilkemeier, Code Inspector Sally Leeper, Secretary CALL TO ORDER• (Agenda Item I) The June 10, 1986, meeting of the Allen Sign Control Board was called to order at 7:33 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Allen Municipal Annex, One Butler Circle, Allen, Texas. Approve Minutes May 13, 1986 (Agenda Item II) Chairman Alexander read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Approve minutes of May 13, 1986, Regular meeting." MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Chrisman and a second by Board Member Biggs, Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the minutes of May 13, 1986, as submitted. The motion carried. Public Hearing Braum's Ice Cream (Agenda Item III) Chairman Alexander read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Public Hearing - Consider a sign variance request by Braum's for a Class 5 Major Free Standing sign located at 805 E. Main, Allen, Texas." Mr. Mike Littlefield, Braum's, advised he was expecting another representative from Braum's management to make the presentation to the Board. Consensus of the Board was to hold the public hearing later in this meeting. ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD JUNE 10, 1986 PAGE TWO Public Hearing Winn Dixie Stores (Agenda Item IV) Chairman Alexander read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Public Hearing - Consider a sign variance requested by Winn Dixie for a Class 7 Major Attached sign located at 104 N. Greenville, Allen, Texas." Mr. Ken Masters, Construction Manager for Winn Dixie Stores, Inc. Fort Worth, Texas, presented elevation drawings of the sign being requested to the Board and photographs of existing signs for their stores. Mr. Scott Andrews, Noble Sign Co., discussed the construction of the sign. The width of the building is 175' and the request is for 475 square feet; the ordinance allows 200 sq. ft. The area to be used for this sign is approximately 12.5% of the total front of the building. Mr. Andrews stated that the building was designed with the intention of using this particular sign. Chairman Alexander opened the Public Hearing. Mr. Scott Andrews, Noble Sign Company, Alabama, spoke in regard to this request. Chairman Alexander closed the public hearing. Board Member George Chrisman questioned if this would be the only side of the building to have signage. Mr. Masters stated there would be no other signs on the building. The only other sign he is aware of would be a multi -use sign for the shopping center. Mr. Andrews discussed the alternatives Winn Dixie had considered in order to comply with the ordinance. Board Member Chrisman questioned whether Winn Dixie has ever used smaller letters, such as four feet. Board Member Cahill stated he feels the sign complies with the intent of the ordinance. Chairman Alexander stated that when looking at the percentage of the store front, he feels this sign would be appropriate. Board Member Cahill made comment regarding the distance from Highway 5. Board Member Chrisman stated his concern would be the possibility of intense use of a multi -use sign. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by Board Member Chrisman, Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the variance requested by Winn Dixie. The motion carried. I ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD JUNE 10, 1986 PAGE THREE Approval - Class 4 Sign Cottonwood Partners (Agenda Item V) Chairman Alexander read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider approval of one Class 4 Temporary sign by Cottonwood Partners for Cottonwood Bend 6A Subdivision in the City of Allen, Texas, to be located at the northwest corner of Bethany and Fairlawn Drive." MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Chrisman and a second by Board Member Cahill, Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve one Class 4 Temporary sign for Cottonwood Partners as submitted. The motion carried. Approval - Class 4 Sign Eagle Plaza 2 (Agenda Item VI) Chairman Alexander read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider approval of one Class 4 Temporary sign for Eagle Plaza 2 Shopping Center located at 201 S. Jupiter, Allen, Texas." MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by Board Member Chrisman, Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve one Class 4 Temporary sign for Eagel Plaza 2 Shopping Center as submitted. The motion carried. Rranm�c (Agenda Item III) Mr. Mike Littlefield, Construction Superintendent for Braum's made the presentation to the Board. He stated this is the sign that Braum's has been using in Kansas, Texas and Oklahoma. lie stated there is a provision for a smaller sign; however, he feels this sign is better suited to the needs of the business. A smaller sign would have to be made on a special order basis. He stated the company could lower the sign. Chairman Alexander opened the public hearing. Mr. Mike Littlefield, above, spoke in regard to this variance request. Chairman Alexander closed the public hearing. ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD JUNE 10, 1986 PAGE FOUR Board Member Chrisman stated he felt the smaller sign will show as well as the one presented at this time. Board Member Cahill stated the bottom half of the sign alone would fall within the ordinance requirements. Chairman Alexander noted the other businesses in town that comply with the ordinance. He stated there was no hardship shown that would indicate a need for a variance. Mr. Littlefield asked if the bottom half of the sign were used, even though it is 2 to 4 feet over the ordinance, could this be approved? MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Chrisman and a second by Board Member Cahill, Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve a permit for Braum's Ice Cream to put up a complying sign; one that does not exceed 60 square feet and 20 feet in height, or at their choice, a sign that does not exceed 64 square feet and stays within the 20 foot height limit, and is the exact representation of the bottom half of what is submitted this date. The motion carried. Discussion: (Agenda Item VII) Board Members discussed the fact that there is a potential need to revise the ordinance with regard to Class 7 Major Attached Signs. Mr. Hilkemeier stated he has researched this issue with other towns as to what they require for these signs. He suggested a change to the ordinance on page 21, Item 8, Class 7 Signs, letter "A", leaving "2 times the front of the building up to 200 square feet." Anything over 200 sq. ft. would be calculated on a percentage basis, using a figure of 12 percent. This would indicate that any building with a linear frontage more than 100 feet would require the percentage figure. The Board discussed the possibility of including this approval with that for all outlying signs for the business. Mr. Hilkemeier suggested that any other changes that need to be made should be forwarded to City Council at one time. The consensus of the Board was to schedule a workshop session at the end of the next meeting to consider any other ordinance changes necessary. Adjourn: (Agenda Item VIII) MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by Board Member Chrisman, Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to adjourn the June 10, 1986, meeting of the Allen Sign Control Board at 8:47 p.m. The motion carried. ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD JUNE 10, 1986 PAGE FIVE These minutes approved this p day of 1986. RL. �Q-t' Q - ick Alexan er, Chairman FiI P hrisman, Secretary