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Min - Board of Adjustment - 1987 - 02/10 - JointALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD ALLEN ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT JOINT REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 10, 1987 ATTENDANCE: Sian Control Members Present: Harold Biggs, Vice -Chairman George Chrisman, Secretary John Karlsruher John Cahill Zonina Board of Adjustment Members Present: John Karlsruher, Chairman John Cahill, Vice -Chairman George Chrisman Harold Biggs City Staff Present: Bill Petty, Director of Community Development E Sally Leeper, Secretary Joseph Del Ferro, Environmental Health Inspector CALL TO ORDER• The Sign Control Board was called to order at 8:15 p.m. at the City Council Chambers, Allen Municipal Annex, One Butler Circle, Allen, Texas, by Vice -Chairman Biggs. The Zoning Board of Adjustment was called to order at 8:15 p.m. at the City Council Chambers, Allen Municipal Annex, One Butler Circle, Allen, Texas, by Chairman Karlsruher. Approve Minutes Zoning Board of Adjustment January 13, 1987 (Agenda Item III) Chairman Karlsruher read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Approve minutes of January 13, 1987, Zoning Board of Adjustment." MOTION: A motion was made by Board Member Chrisman and seconded by Board Member Biggs to approve the minutes as presented. L' ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD ALLEN ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FEBRUARY 10, 1987 Approve Minutes Zoning Board of Adjustment January 13, 1987 (Cont.) PAGE T19O (Agenda Item III) Board Member Cahill submitted a request to amend the minutes. After discussion, the Board voted on the motion. The Board voted 3 FOR and 1 OPPOSED (Board Member Cahill) to approve the minutes as presented. The question was raised as to whether it would require four concurring votes to approve the minutes, as is required in other action taken by this Board. Board Member Cahill asked the chairman for reconsideration of the item so that he might change his vote. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by Board Member Cahill, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the minutes of the January 13, 1987, meeting of the Zoning Board of Adjustment as presented. The motion carried. Consider Action pertaining to workload of Sign Board and Board of Adjustment (Agenda Item IV) Vice -Chairman Biggs read the agenda item into the record as follows: "Consider action pertaining to interrelated workload by the Sign Board and Zoning Board of Adjustment." Mr. Bill Petty advised the Boards that Mr. Rick Alexander had submitted his resignation to both of the boards and City Council had acted upon that request at the February 5, 1987, meeting. He advised the Board Members that City Council has determined that this is an appropriate time to separate the two boards, and that they had expressed their appreciation to all the members for their service on both of the boards. City Council has indicated that each member should be given the opportunity to choose the Board he would prefer to serve on, and at that time the Board Member would then submit his resignation to the other Board. A ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD ALLEN ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FEBRUARY 10, 1987 PAGE THREE Consider Action pertaining to workload of Sign Board and Board of Adjustment (Cont.) (Agenda Item IV) Board Member Biggs advised he would prefer to remain on the Sign Control Board and would submit his resignation for the Board of Adjustment. Board Member Chrisman advised he would want to take some time to think about the matter. Board Member Cahill advised he would prefer to remain on the Board of Adjustment and would submit his resignation to the Sign Control Board. Board Member Karlsruher advised he would prefer to remain on the Board of Adjustment and would submit his resignation to the Sign Control Board. Adjourn: (Agenda Item V) MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Chrisman and a second by Board Member Karlsruher, the Board voted 9 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to adjourn the Allen Sign Control Board at 9:36 p.m. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Chrisman and a second by Board Member Biggs, the Board voted 9 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to adjourn the Zoning Board of Adjustment at 9:36 P.M. These minutes approved this &) day of /� A C 1987, by the Sign Control Board. r-- ,i�.PIl l Harold Biggs, Vice hairman Sign Control Board N� oa-w� George hrisman, Secretary Sign Control Board These minutes approved this day of 1987, by the Zoning Board of Adjustment. John Karlsruher, Chairman John Cahill, Vice -Chairman Board of Adjustment Board of Adjustment } Suggested Corrections to the Minutes February 10,1987 "BOARD 1F ADJUSTMENT CITY OP ALLEN MINUTES OF JANUARY 13.1987 Public Hearing" It is understood that the Allen zoning Board of Adjustment is not a court of record, Allthough its responsibility is one of a Judicial Nature. It is suggested that any kuotatLone in the minutes be actual as recorded on the tape cassette. Page iae Paragraph five Board member Cahill Stated " Enter herein the entire seven minute introductory speech made by John Cahill" Mr. Cahill is of the opinion that his speech against the request is as important to this hearing as was the seven minute presentation of Mrr. Oven Pettit's Historical review which to attatch.ed to these minutes in its entirety As well as Mr. Don Rings presentation of some 25 minutes. ( One and one half page summary) Page Five Paragraph Six is not what John Cahill Said and should be deleted in lieu of inserting Mr. Cahill's entire seven minute opening statement . What Mr. Cahill Actually said was" I WENT TO CITY HALL AND'ASKED MR. PETTY TO PUT UP SOMETHING BEFORE THIS BOARD THAT WOULD FORBID SOLICITATION OF THIS BOARD BEFORE THE JUDICIAL MEETS IN THIS COUNCIL" This meeting was recorded by John Cahill and I cannot locate on my tape the following topics " the wording as used herein.. PAGE FOUR LAST PARAGRAPH --" Mr. Petty stated fhat staff will need to research at cetera. PAGE FIVE PARAGRAPH THREE " It was noted that a 30% exception Et Catera --------- Who noted --who said --- Page six Paragraph five "Board member Cahill stated be believes et cetera....... Page Seven Paragraph Two It was suggested that Mr. Leafgreen et cetera Who suggested and was their a response to this by John Cahill concerning the the one year waiting period before Mr. Leafgreen could present his case .it is very important in a judicial matter that the entire question be presented. Submitted by JOHN L. CAHILL JR. VICE CHAIRMAN Allen Zoning Board of Adjustment