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Min - Board of Adjustment - 1988 - 05/10 - Regularki ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD REGULAR MEETING NAY 10, 1988 ATTENDANCE: Board Members Present: George Chrisman, Chairman Harold Biggs Bruce Kleinschmidt Randall Leverett Board Members Absent: Sheila Curtis City Staff Present: Joseph Del Ferro, Environmental Health Inspector Sally Leeper, Secretary CALL TO ORDER: The Allen Sign Control Board was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Chrisman, at the Allen Municipal Annex, City Council Chambers, One Butler Circle, Allen, Texas. Approve Minutes April 12, 1988 (Agenda Item II) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol- lows: "Approve minutes of April 12, 1988, regular meeting." MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by Board Member Leverett, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the minutes of April 12, 1988, as submitted. Tabled Item Daum Advertising Co. (Agenda Item III) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol- lows: "Tabled Item - Consider request from Daum Advertising Company for a variance to the City of Allen Sign Regulations Ordinance to allow a two-sided Class 6 Freeway Sign, each side being 288 square feet in size, with no relationship to the other." A I ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD MAY 10, 1988 PAGE 2 Tabled Item Daum Advertising (Cont.) (Agenda Item III) Chairman Chrisman stated that because the issue of determining size of a Class 6 Freeway sign is part of the review process that the Board is undertaking at this time regarding the Sign Regula- tions Ordinance, he would recommend that this item be removed from the table for action. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Biggs, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to remove Agenda Item III from the table. The Board discussed the fact that the issue in this variance request is for a two-sided freeway sign, each side being 288 square feet. This is an option being considered in the review process for the Sign Regulations Ordinance, and it was the consensus of the Board that the issue should be resolved by amendment to the ordinance if the desire is in fact to allow two- sided freeway signs, each 288 square feet. Board Member Kleinschmidt questioned whether Mr. Daum had ob- tained a State permit for the proposed sign and was advised that the permit had not yet been received. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by Board Member Leverett the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to deny the variance request by Daum Advertis- ing Co. Consider Renewal Marymark Homes (Agenda Item IV) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol- lows: "Consider second renewal for Class 4 sign for Marymark Homes located at 800 Fall Drive." Mr. Del Ferro advised that the sign is in good repair. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by Board Member Leverett, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve the renewal for the Class 4 sign at 800 Fall Drive. ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD MAY 10, 1988 PAGE 3 Consider Renewal Nova Development (Agenda Item V) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol- lows: "Consider third renewal for Class 4 sign for Nova Develop- ment located at 400 W. Bethany." MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve renewal of the Nova Development sign located at 400 W. Bethany. Consider Renewal Nova Development (Agenda Item VI) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol- lows: "Consider third renewal for Class 4 sign for Nova Develop- ment located north of Bethany Drive and east of U.S. 75." MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Biggs, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve renewal of the sign for Nova Development located north of Bethany Drive and east of U.S. 75. Consider Renewal Concourse Development (Agenda Item VII) Chairman Chrisman read the agenda item into the record as fol- lows: "Consider fifth renewal of Class 4 sign for Concourse Development located at the intersection of U.S. 75 and S.H. 121." The Board discussed the fact that this sign is still necessary because of the economic situation at this time. MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Biggs and a second by Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to approve renewal for Concourse Development. H I ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD MAY 10, 1988 PAGE 4 Review of Class 4 Signs Issued during April, 1988 (Agenda Item VIII) Mr. Del Ferro advised the Board that only one Class 4 temporary sign permit had been issued during the past month. It was for Allentown Office Park, to be located at the northwest corner of Allentown Parkway and S.H. 5. Annual Review Sign Regulations Ordinance (Agenda Item IX) Chairman Chrisman suggested that it would be appropriate to move forward with the annual review of the Sign Ordinance and send the recommendations to City Council during the month of June. He proposed one or two workshops during May to accomplish this task. Chairman Chrisman listed the following items that have been or might be considered for review: 1. The addition of the requirement to submit advertising copy at the time of application in Section 7, paragraph 3, page 33. 2. The necessity of a concise definition of "gross surface area of sign" as it applies to freeway billboards. 3. The need for clarification in the section regarding jump clocks, Section 5, paragraph 4, page 29. 4. The need to review weekend real estate signs with regard to residential property, Section 3, paragraph 11 and 12, pages 5 and 6. The Board held discussion regarding the weekend real estate signs and it was reviewed that this section was amended in August, 1986, as to the hours and location of display. There was discus- sion of Plano's proposed amendment to their regulations concern- ing this type of sign. The letter received from Mr. Dismukes regarding these signs on his property was discussed and it was the consensus that the request from Mr. Dismukes was valid. The following suggestions were made by Board members: 1. Weekend real estate signs would not be allowed on residen- tial property abutting and/or including thoroughfare right- of-way without consent of the property owner. 2. Weekend real estate signs would not be allowed on residen- tial property abutting and/or including throughfare right- of-way that is being maintained by the resident without consent of the property owner. ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD MAY 10, 1988 PAGE 5 Mr. Del Ferro stated that it was his opinion that enforcement of the above would be difficult and that the problem would be better addressed between the homeowner and the owner of the signs. The Board next held discussion regarding the section of the ordinance referencing "jump clocks" on page 29, paragraph 4. It was suggested that signs showing time and temperature only should be allowed. The following wordings were suggested: 1. Change the last sentence of paragraph 4, page 29, to show that only time and/or temperature data may be allowed by special permit of the City Council. 2. Change the last sentence of paragraph 4, page 29, to show that only time and/or temperature data may be allowed by special permit of the Sign Control Board. Further discussion was held regarding marquees signs in parking lots, at schools, banks, etc. The Board next held discussion regarding the definition of "Gross Surface Area of Sign." Mr. Jerry Daum, Daum Advertising, had submitted to city staff a suggestion for this wording. It is as follows: Class 6 off -premise freeway signs adjacent to U.S. 75 and all future thoroughfares, more fully described under Sect. 3, par. F, and which are wholly within 100 feet of the expressway right-of-way and is oriented to be visible from that expressway, then the following exception applies: 1. The Gross Surface Area of the sign more fully described in Sect. 2, "Definitions" of Ord. 374-10-81, will allow two (2) sign facings not to exceed 288 sq. ft. per sign face so long as the sum total square footage for all portions of the sign does not exceed 576 sq. ft. 2. Gross Surface Areas of the sign do not include: a. The sign skirting b. Any temporary extension or embellishment A revision by city staff of this suggestion is as follows: SECTION 2. DEFINITIONS Gross Surface Area of Sign - Exception: Gross Surface Area of Class 6 off -premise freeway signs as described in Section 3, Paragraph F (Class 6 Freeway Signs) which are oriented to be visible from that expressway shall allow two (2) sign facings not to exceed 288 square It was the consensus of the Board that "temporary extension or imbellishment" should be removed from the definition. The Board discussed the State regulations as to measurement of signs. It was discussed that each time the copy changes on a sign, it becomes a new sign and needs a new permit. Suggestions for possible wording of "gross surface area of sign" are: 1. ...using the proposal by staff ... to allow a certain perc- entage of the sign to be allowed for cut outs. 2. ..using the proposal by staff ... change item 2 to read "gross surface area of the sign does not include the base or apron, supports, or other structural members." Next, the Board discussed the permit and renewal process for billboards. It was suggested that a change be proposed to require that the permit for a Class 6 Freeway sign expire annually and a request must be received in writing for renewal. The fee for permit or renewal would be $100. The permit number from the City and the State should appear on the face of the sign. The initial permit fee should be recommended at $100. The question arose as to whether the fee would be for each sign face, or for both sides to be considered as one sign. In reviewing the State regulations it appeared that their fee was based on each face of the sign, and it was the consensus of the Board that it would be appropriate for the city fee structure to follow that of the state. The next item for discussion was the fact that Section 3, Item 2, page 14 should be amended to read "each sign facing may not exceed an area of 288 square feet, and the sum total square footage cannot exceed 576 square feet." The addition of Item 4 was suggested as follows: These permits expire annually, and must be renewed in writing. Both state and I city permit numbers must be displayed on the sign facing. ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD MAY 10, 1988 PAGE 6 feet per sign face, so long as the sum total square footage for all portions of the sign does not exceed 576 square feet. The gross surface area does not include a) the sign skirting, or b) any temporary extension or embellishment. It was the consensus of the Board that "temporary extension or imbellishment" should be removed from the definition. The Board discussed the State regulations as to measurement of signs. It was discussed that each time the copy changes on a sign, it becomes a new sign and needs a new permit. Suggestions for possible wording of "gross surface area of sign" are: 1. ...using the proposal by staff ... to allow a certain perc- entage of the sign to be allowed for cut outs. 2. ..using the proposal by staff ... change item 2 to read "gross surface area of the sign does not include the base or apron, supports, or other structural members." Next, the Board discussed the permit and renewal process for billboards. It was suggested that a change be proposed to require that the permit for a Class 6 Freeway sign expire annually and a request must be received in writing for renewal. The fee for permit or renewal would be $100. The permit number from the City and the State should appear on the face of the sign. The initial permit fee should be recommended at $100. The question arose as to whether the fee would be for each sign face, or for both sides to be considered as one sign. In reviewing the State regulations it appeared that their fee was based on each face of the sign, and it was the consensus of the Board that it would be appropriate for the city fee structure to follow that of the state. The next item for discussion was the fact that Section 3, Item 2, page 14 should be amended to read "each sign facing may not exceed an area of 288 square feet, and the sum total square footage cannot exceed 576 square feet." The addition of Item 4 was suggested as follows: These permits expire annually, and must be renewed in writing. Both state and I city permit numbers must be displayed on the sign facing. ALLEN SIGN CONTROL BOARD MAY 10, 1988 PAGE 7 Section 7, Sign Permits, Fees, should be changed as follows: Paragraph a: remove Class 6. Paragraph c: Fees for permit to erect, alter, replace, or relocate any Class 6 sign shall be as follows: Illuminated: $150 per face Nonilluminated: $100 per face Section 7, page 33, should be changed as follows: Paragraph h: Add an item stating that the advertising copy must accompany the application. Paragraph is Add an item stating that state permit for freeway signs must accompany the application; as well as other appropri- ate approvals; i.e. Texas Electric/Utilities. Paragraph j: This would be the current paragraph h. The Board discussed a further meeting to complete the review and it was the consensus of the Board to hold a workshop session at 7:30 May 17, 1988. Staff was requested to prepare samples of the amendment proposals for review at this workshop meeting. Adjourn: MOTION: Upon a motion by Board Member Leverett and a second by Board Member Kleinschmidt, the Board voted 4 FOR and 0 OPPOSED to adjourn the regular meeting of the Allen Sign Control Board at 9:25 p.m. These minutes approved this / 7 day of 1988. 6 k George hrisman, Chairman L, Bruce Kleinschmidt, Secretary